"Don" wrote in message news:29mdnU4uw8nfiXDcRVn-sA@comcast.com...
> This ng used to be a good resource. Is there a better ng for info?
>
They're still discussing Scuba on uk.rec.scuba
Most of the posts here are garbage.

From:	Kimber
Subject:	Re: what happened?
Date:	Tue, 18 Jan 2005 21:43:06 -0500

> "Don" wrote in message
news:29mdnU4uw8nfiXDcRVn-sA@comcast.com...
> > This ng used to be a good resource. Is there a better ng for info?
> >
> They're still discussing Scuba on uk.rec.scuba
> Most of the posts here are garbage.

Then quit reading and posting here.

Don't let the door hit you in the ass on the way out...

Kimber
---
If your ship doesn't come in, swim out to it.

-Jonathan Winters

From:	pugetsounddiver at gmail.com
Subject:	Re: what happened?
Date:	18 Jan 2005 19:07:07 -0800

Rudy Benner wrote:

> > Fuck you too, asshole. Get off yours, it is making you stupid.
> > I am sick to death of all you pussy cocksuckers.
> >
> It must be nice being you. A truly happy camper.

Just kiss my ass.

Youi have less than no idea.

You punks take the cheap shots from the cheaps seats at every
opportunity, time after time, after time, and then you have the fucking
pussiness to stand back and act like *you* have been insulted when We
get fed up and tell you to fuck off.

Must be really nice being you;

Your nation doesnt have to defend itself, keep a credible military, or
bury its dead by the hundreds and thousands, year after year, decade
after decade.

All you have to do is play Monday morning quarterback.

Enjoy your freedom;
It comes to you from the very same people you endanger.

From:	Rudy Benner
Subject:	Re: what happened?
Date:	Wed, 19 Jan 2005 17:39:41 -0500

wrote in message
news:1106104027.079530.285910@c13g2000cwb.googlegroups.com...
> Rudy Benner wrote:
>
>> > Fuck you too, asshole. Get off yours, it is making you stupid.
>> > I am sick to death of all you pussy cocksuckers.
>> >
>> It must be nice being you. A truly happy camper.
>
> Just kiss my ass.
>
> Youi have less than no idea.
>
> You punks take the cheap shots from the cheaps seats at every
> opportunity, time after time, after time, and then you have the fucking
> pussiness to stand back and act like *you* have been insulted when We
> get fed up and tell you to fuck off.
>
> Must be really nice being you;
>
> Your nation doesnt have to defend itself, keep a credible military, or
> bury its dead by the hundreds and thousands, year after year, decade
> after decade.
>
> All you have to do is play Monday morning quarterback.
>
> Enjoy your freedom;
> It comes to you from the very same people you endanger.
>

You sure put a lot of energy into being an asshole.

From:	Grumman-581
Subject:	Re: what happened?
Date:	Wed, 19 Jan 2005 18:47:56 -0600

"Rudy Benner" wrote ...
> You sure put a lot of energy into being an asshole.

You've never heard of "Zen and the Art of Being an Asshole"? You'd be
surprised how little energy it takes...

From:	Rudy Benner
Subject:	Re: what happened?
Date:	Wed, 19 Jan 2005 20:04:29 -0500

"Grumman-581" wrote in message
news:blDHd.52$zA.30@fe05.lga...
> "Rudy Benner" wrote ...
>> You sure put a lot of energy into being an asshole.
>
> You've never heard of "Zen and the Art of Being an Asshole"? You'd be
> surprised how little energy it takes...
>
>

I could have said that he does the asshole act naturally, but that would not
be true, I have seen Scott's generous side, but not lately. He seems to be
angry at everything and everybody now. Its hard work being angry all the
time.

From:	Greg Mossman
Subject:	Re: what happened?
Date:	Wed, 19 Jan 2005 22:50:00 -0800

"Rudy Benner" wrote in message
news:10uu0t5ai7d1746@corp.supernews.com...

> I could have said that he does the asshole act naturally, but that would
> not be true, I have seen Scott's generous side, but not lately. He seems
> to be angry at everything and everybody now. Its hard work being angry all
> the time.

Scott work hard? Maybe that's why he's angry.

From:	Alan Street
Subject:	Re: what happened?
Date:	Tue, 18 Jan 2005 10:20:29 -0800

In article <29mdnU4uw8nfiXDcRVn-sA@comcast.com>, Don
wrote:

€ This ng used to be a good resource. Is there a better ng for info?
€
€

You make use of the newsgroup you have, not the newsgroup you wish you
had.

From:	pugetsounddiver at gmail.com
Subject:	Re: what happened?
Date:	18 Jan 2005 07:26:53 -0800

ben bradlee wrote:

> Don't know.
>
> It's certain is that you won't find a poorer resource for scuba
information
> than rec.scuba.

We notice you are here contributing to the America bashing for all you
are worth, which isnt much...

From:	Greg Mossman
Subject:	Re: what happened?
Date:	Tue, 18 Jan 2005 09:08:37 -0800

wrote in message
news:1106062013.864306.7110@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com...
> ben bradlee wrote:
>
>> Don't know.
>>
>> It's certain is that you won't find a poorer resource for scuba
> information
>> than rec.scuba.
>
> We notice you are here contributing to the America bashing for all you
> are worth, which isnt much...

America bashing? We love America. It's not America that's at fault, it's
Bush and those who voted him in. At most, we're bashing half of America,
the 50% that approves of Bush as he's heading into his second term. Even
Nixon had 51% approval.

From:	ben bradlee
Subject:	Re: what happened?
Date:	Tue, 18 Jan 2005 11:32:33 -0600

> raises his ass off the pot to reveal quit a
pile of ........

Shit
Shit Shit
Shit We notice Shit
Shit you are here Shit
Shit contributing to the Shit Shit
Shit bashing for all you are Shit Shit
Shit Shit worth, which isnt much Shit Shit
Shit Shit Shit Shit Shit Shit Shit Shit Shit Shit Shit

From:	Steve Barlow
Subject:	Re: what happened?
Date:	Tue, 18 Jan 2005 18:19:03 +0000

On Tue, 18 Jan 2005 11:32:33 -0600, "ben bradlee" wrote:

> Shit

Still waiting to get you anal probe removed then.

--
Steve Barlow

From:	ben bradlee
Subject:	Re: what happened?
Date:	Tue, 18 Jan 2005 12:37:36 -0600

"Steve Barlow" wrote in message
news:5mkqu0pvqne8dgourp6rf4483viom3jfd7@4ax.com...

> Steve Barlow

As the group deteriorated, Steve Barlow joined to help push standards lower.
With nothing useful to say and plenty of time to say it, Steve plays an
active roll as useless commentator and helpful chimpanzee. Steve's greatest
achievement is posting on rec.scuba. Congratulations Steve!

From:	Steve Barlow
Subject:	Re: what happened?
Date:	Wed, 19 Jan 2005 12:50:41 +0000

On Tue, 18 Jan 2005 12:37:36 -0600, "ben bradlee"

wrote:

>As the group deteriorated, Steve Barlow joined to help push standards lower.
>With nothing useful to say and plenty of time to say it, Steve plays an
>active roll as useless commentator and helpful chimpanzee. Steve's greatest
>achievement is posting on rec.scuba. Congratulations Steve!
>
You just don't understand Fuck Off do you.

Is your other name MacDonald?

--
Steve Barlow

From:	pugetsounddiver at gmail.com
Subject:	Re: what happened?
Date:	18 Jan 2005 19:01:34 -0800

Adam Helberg wrote:

> They're still discussing Scuba on uk.rec.scuba
> Most of the posts here are garbage.

And yet, here you are.

From:	Adam Helberg
Subject:	Re: what happened?
Date:	Wed, 19 Jan 2005 03:41:11 GMT

wrote in message
news:1106103694.434890.83720@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com...
> Adam Helberg wrote:
>
>> They're still discussing Scuba on uk.rec.scuba
>> Most of the posts here are garbage.
>
> And yet, here you are.

I scan hoping to find some content, but I've noticed over time the newsgroup
deteriorating.

Adam

From:	Mike from Ottawa
Subject:	Re: what happened?
Date:	Tue, 18 Jan 2005 23:12:07 -0500

On Wed, 19 Jan 2005 03:41:11 GMT, "Adam Helberg"
wrote:

>
> wrote in message
>news:1106103694.434890.83720@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com...
>> Adam Helberg wrote:
>>
>>> They're still discussing Scuba on uk.rec.scuba
>>> Most of the posts here are garbage.
>>
>> And yet, here you are.
>
>I scan hoping to find some content, but I've noticed over time the newsgroup
>deteriorating.
>
>Adam

Definitely, especially due to a handful of ranters. Usenet filters
are great for eliminating a lot of the crud.

There are occasionally some interesting OT threads, but they usually
degenerate into libs vs neocons, name-calling, and it just becomes
impossible for any rational discussion.

---
Mike from Ottawa

From:	Jammer Six
Subject:	Re: what happened?
Date:	Tue, 18 Jan 2005 20:43:59 -0800

In article ,
Adam Helberg wrote:

€ I scan hoping to find some content, but I've noticed over time the newsgroup
€ deteriorating.

Yeah, I said the same thing.

In 1995.

[yawn]

Newbies. Jesus.

--
"We're going to rush the hijackers."
-Jeremy Glick, aboard United Airlines flight 93, September 11, 2001

From:	Grumman-581
Subject:	Re: what happened?
Date:	Tue, 18 Jan 2005 21:41:33 -0600

"Adam Helberg" wrote ...
> I scan hoping to find some content, but I've noticed
> over time the newsgroup deteriorating.

Because we've discussed every diving topic to death by now... All that is
left are topics that no matter how much we argue one way or the other, the
proponents of one view are not going to change the beliefs of those with
opposing views... Kind of like having without being able to orgasm, I
guess...

From:	Jammer Six
Subject:	Re: what happened?
Date:	Tue, 18 Jan 2005 20:45:02 -0800

In article , Grumman-581

wrote:

€ Kind of like having without being able to orgasm, I
€ guess...

We bow to your superior knowledge of this phenomenon.

--
"We're going to rush the hijackers."
-Jeremy Glick, aboard United Airlines flight 93, September 11, 2001

From:	Grumman-581
Subject:	Re: what happened?
Date:	Tue, 18 Jan 2005 22:49:47 -0600

"Jammer Six" wrote ...
> We bow to your superior knowledge of this phenomenon.

Someone once said, "It's easier to fuck 10 women in 1 night than 1 woman 10
times in one night"...

Frankly, I'm just not as young as I used to be... After the 3rd time in one
night, I can still get it up, but the effort to "get over the edge" is just
too much... Oh well, I guess that's better than not being able to get it
up... I guess I'll have to bow to *your* superior knowledge on that
phenomenon...

From:	Alan Street
Subject:	Re: what happened?
Date:	Tue, 18 Jan 2005 22:42:08 -0800

In article , Grumman-581

wrote:

€ "Jammer Six" wrote ...
€ > We bow to your superior knowledge of this phenomenon.
€
€ Someone once said, "It's easier to fuck 10 women in 1 night than 1 woman 10
€ times in one night"...
€
€ Frankly, I'm just not as young as I used to be... After the 3rd time in one
€ night, I can still get it up, but the effort to "get over the edge" is just
€ too much... Oh well, I guess that's better than not being able to get it
€ up... I guess I'll have to bow to *your* superior knowledge on that
€ phenomenon...
€
€

As we segue into a metaphorical discussion of speed metal versus slow
blues....

From:	chilly
Subject:	Re: what happened?
Date:	Wed, 19 Jan 2005 07:22:54 GMT

"Alan Street" wrote in message
news:180120052242085054%agstreet@nonono_san.rr.com...
> In article , Grumman-581
> wrote:
>
> ? "Jammer Six" wrote ...
> ? > We bow to your superior knowledge of this phenomenon.
> ?
> ? Someone once said, "It's easier to fuck 10 women in 1 night than 1 woman
10
> ? times in one night"...
> ?
> ? Frankly, I'm just not as young as I used to be... After the 3rd time in
one
> ? night, I can still get it up, but the effort to "get over the edge" is
just
> ? too much... Oh well, I guess that's better than not being able to get it
> ? up... I guess I'll have to bow to *your* superior knowledge on that
> ? phenomenon...
> ?
> ?
>
> As we segue into a metaphorical discussion of speed metal versus slow
> blues....

I've always loved the blues and never been much of a metal fan.

From:	Jammer Six
Subject:	Re: what happened?
Date:	Wed, 19 Jan 2005 07:39:55 -0800

In article , chilly
wrote:

€ I've always loved the blues and never been much of a metal fan.

My kind of woman.

--
"We're going to rush the hijackers."
-Jeremy Glick, aboard United Airlines flight 93, September 11, 2001

From:	Mike from Ottawa
Subject:	Re: what happened?
Date:	Thu, 20 Jan 2005 00:59:15 -0500

On Wed, 19 Jan 2005 07:22:54 GMT, "chilly"
wrote:

>
>"Alan Street" wrote in message
>news:180120052242085054%agstreet@nonono_san.rr.com...
>> In article , Grumman-581
>> wrote:

>> As we segue into a metaphorical discussion of speed metal versus slow
>> blues....
>
>I've always loved the blues and never been much of a metal fan.

Cool! I love the blues. Depending on the mood, I can vary to rock,
folk and jazz, but I always come back to the blues.

Do you get many blues acts in AB?

---
Mike from Ottawa

From:	chilly
Subject:	Re: what happened?
Date:	Thu, 20 Jan 2005 07:44:45 GMT

"Mike from Ottawa" wrote in message
news:l2iuu0deod3bpikm6cac1l5t8pb0g59qac@4ax.com...
> On Wed, 19 Jan 2005 07:22:54 GMT, "chilly"
> wrote:
>
> >
> >"Alan Street" wrote in message
> >news:180120052242085054%agstreet@nonono_san.rr.com...
> >> In article , Grumman-581
> >> wrote:
>
> >> As we segue into a metaphorical discussion of speed metal versus slow
> >> blues....
> >
> >I've always loved the blues and never been much of a metal fan.
>
> Cool! I love the blues. Depending on the mood, I can vary to rock,
> folk and jazz, but I always come back to the blues.
>
> Do you get many blues acts in AB?

Many. We used to have a blues club/bar "The Kind Eddy" at a scuzzy old
hotel called the King Edward. Here's a picture:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/sherlock77/1621400/in/set-27243/

The King Eddy was a famous blues club for years. Aside from the acts, every
Saturday there was a blues jam. Steve Pineo started out there. I saw him
myself any number of Saturdays when he was just a little guy, wet behind the
ears and maybe even using fake ID. Amos Garrett and Marina Muldar were
regulars. Geez, I can't even remember all the incredible artists and bands
that have played there over the years. I sure miss that place.

There are still a number of different venues that serve up blues now and
then but Kaos is fairly consistent in that regard:
http://www.kaosblues.com/Performers.htm

A bit out of the way for me but:
http://www.bluesatthebow.com/ua01.htm

In Edmonton, also a bit out of the way for me:
Blues on Whyte (no website)

In the summer, we have a Blues and Roots Festival.
http://www.istc.org/sisp/?fx=event&event_id=106071

Stevie Ray Vaughn, we miss you man.

Johnny Lang . . . What an amazing talent. First time I heard him play, I
don't think he was even 16 yet.

And one of my favorite albums "Ridin' with the King".

OK, that's enough of that. :^)

From:	Mike from Ottawa
Subject:	Re: what happened?
Date:	Fri, 21 Jan 2005 00:41:31 -0500

On Thu, 20 Jan 2005 07:44:45 GMT, "chilly"
wrote:

>> Cool! I love the blues. Depending on the mood, I can vary to rock,
>> folk and jazz, but I always come back to the blues.
>>
>> Do you get many blues acts in AB?
>
>Many. We used to have a blues club/bar "The Kind Eddy" at a scuzzy old
>hotel called the King Edward. Here's a picture:
>http://www.flickr.com/photos/sherlock77/1621400/in/set-27243/
>

The site was down. I'll check later.

We hope to get to AB and BC sometime soon for summer holidays. My
wife hasn't been through the Rockies, only to Vancouver on business.
I really want to show her the Icefields Parkway, the Badlands, etc.

>The King Eddy was a famous blues club for years. Aside from the acts, every
>Saturday there was a blues jam. Steve Pineo started out there. I saw him
>myself any number of Saturdays when he was just a little guy, wet behind the
>ears and maybe even using fake ID. Amos Garrett and Marina Muldar were
>regulars. Geez, I can't even remember all the incredible artists and bands
>that have played there over the years. I sure miss that place.
>
>There are still a number of different venues that serve up blues now and
>then but Kaos is fairly consistent in that regard:
>http://www.kaosblues.com/Performers.htm

Lester Quitzau, Trevor Finlay, David Gogo, Magic Slim, Jack DeKeyzer,
Ellen McIllwaine -- great acts.

>A bit out of the way for me but:
>http://www.bluesatthebow.com/ua01.htm
>
>In Edmonton, also a bit out of the way for me:
>Blues on Whyte (no website)
>
>In the summer, we have a Blues and Roots Festival.
>http://www.istc.org/sisp/?fx=event&event_id=106071

We have one, too. It's the 2nd largest bluesfest in N. America:

http://www.ottawa-bluesfest.ca/index-en.html

They used to hold it on LeBreton Flats, and then moved it downtown.
Unfortunately for me, they're getting further away from the blues, but
I've seen Johnny Lang, Colin James, Little Richard, Maria Mauldaur,
Gatemouth Brown, Keb 'Mo and many others. We saw Sting one year, and
although I'm not as fussed on him as my wife, he was great and his
band was top-notch.

>Stevie Ray Vaughn, we miss you man.

Amen. Did you ever see his show on Austin City Limits? He was
amazing. I have to get a copy of that some day.

>Johnny Lang . . . What an amazing talent. First time I heard him play, I
>don't think he was even 16 yet.

I heard recently of David Jacob-Strains, another up-and-coming kid. I
haven't found any of his stuff yet.

>And one of my favorite albums "Ridin' with the King".

Yeah, it was almost like they were both trying to outdo each other, to
our eternal benefit.

>OK, that's enough of that. :^)

Why? It's OT, but shouldn't offend too many!

Ottawa has a blues & jazz events website:
http://ottawa-blues-jazz.ncf.ca/

We even have a blues cruise on the Ottawa River. I've never had the
chance yet to make it, but maybe in 2005:
http://www.cajun.ca/misc/bluescruise/

We have a few places that specialise in the blues:
Tucson's: http://www.soundzgood.com/tucsons/index.htm
(food is crappy, but they get great acts)

The Bayou:
http://www.thebayou.ca/
Haven't tried it, yet.

The Rainbow:
http://www.therainbow.ca/
This is probably the best place to find some great blues bands. It's
a local blues institution. Tony D is a local talent who's released a
few CDs. Great music, great spot.

Funny how Canada is a great home of the blues. Must have something to
do with the cold weather.

---
Mike from Ottawa

From:	Grumman-581
Subject:	Re: what happened?
Date:	Thu, 20 Jan 2005 00:20:05 -0600

"Mike from Ottawa" wrote ...
> Do you get many blues acts in AB?

In Canada? Of course... It's that stage before hypothermia and frostbite...

From:	Lee Bell
Subject:	Re: what happened?
Date:	Wed, 19 Jan 2005 08:57:51 GMT

"Grumman-581" wrote

> "Adam Helberg" wrote ...
>> I scan hoping to find some content, but I've noticed
>> over time the newsgroup deteriorating.
>
> Because we've discussed every diving topic to death by now... All that is
> left are topics that no matter how much we argue one way or the other, the
> proponents of one view are not going to change the beliefs of those with
> opposing views... Kind of like having without being able to orgasm, I
> guess...

Just when you think you've discussed it all, something like this pops up.

http://www.innerrealm.co.nz/dir_details.asp?pk=45

Lee

From:	Kimber
Subject:	Re: what happened?
Date:	Thu, 20 Jan 2005 08:16:28 -0500

"Lee Bell" wrote in message
news:jipHd.67$cZ1.8@newsread2.news.atl.earthlink.net...
> "Grumman-581" wrote
>
> > "Adam Helberg" wrote ...
> >> I scan hoping to find some content, but I've noticed
> >> over time the newsgroup deteriorating.
> >
> > Because we've discussed every diving topic to death by now... All that
is
> > left are topics that no matter how much we argue one way or the other,
the
> > proponents of one view are not going to change the beliefs of those with
> > opposing views... Kind of like having without being able to orgasm,
I
> > guess...
>
> Just when you think you've discussed it all, something like this pops up.
>
> http://www.innerrealm.co.nz/dir_details.asp?pk=45

And nobody says a word....

(-;

Kimber
--
Remember, today is the tomorrow you worried about yesterday.

- Dale Carnegie

From:	Lee Bell
Subject:	Re: what happened?
Date:	Thu, 20 Jan 2005 14:02:03 GMT

> Just when you think you've discussed it all, something like this pops up.
> http://www.innerrealm.co.nz/dir_details.asp?pk=45
> And nobody says a word....

I believe the post came from Quest. I don't know who originally posted it,
but it was a response to a comment by me that DIR does not embrace sidemount
configurations. It was presented as proof after a statement that both
George and JJ had covered the DIR sidemount configuration. One look and I
was off and running. There's nothing DIR about what the post suggests. In
fact, it's such a cobbled together mess that I question whether George
really was responsible for it. Whether we get along or not, he's better
than what this post suggests.

I am a bit surprised the message didn't get discussion here. Maybe now it
will.

Lee

From:	H. Huntzinger
Subject:	Re: what happened?
Date:	Sun, 23 Jan 2005 07:53:08 -0500

"Lee Bell" wrote:

> > Just when you think you've discussed it all, something like this pops up.
> > http://www.innerrealm.co.nz/dir_details.asp?pk=45
> > And nobody says a word....
>
> I believe the post came from Quest. I don't know who originally posted it,
> but it was a response to a comment by me that DIR does not embrace sidemount
> configurations. It was presented as proof after a statement that both
> George and JJ had covered the DIR sidemount configuration. One look and I
> was off and running. There's nothing DIR about what the post suggests. In
> fact, it's such a cobbled together mess that I question whether George
> really was responsible for it. Whether we get along or not, he's better
> than what this post suggests.
>
> I am a bit surprised the message didn't get discussion here. Maybe now it
> will.

That there's hypocrisy within DIR is a surprise that needs discussion?

FWIW, you're right that that was one cobbled together mess. Wasn't it
preached that only strokes would ever be so disorganized? ;-)

-hh

From:	Kimber
Subject:	Re: what happened?
Date:	Tue, 18 Jan 2005 22:55:34 -0500

"Grumman-581" wrote in message
news:INkHd.23405

> Because we've discussed every diving topic to death by now... All that is
> left are topics that no matter how much we argue one way or the other, the
> proponents of one view are not going to change the beliefs of those with
> opposing views... Kind of like having without being able to orgasm, I
> guess...

It is also -- wintertime and less people are out diving. Come spring and
summer -- more people are out diving and thusly talking about their dives --
gear -- etc.

Or I could just be full of shit! But it sounded good! (-;

Kimber
--
I never did give anybody hell. I just told the truth and they thought it
was hell.
- Harry S. Truman (1884-1972)

From:	Adam Helberg
Subject:	Re: what happened?
Date:	Wed, 19 Jan 2005 04:56:50 GMT

"Kimber" wrote in message
news:10urmhpe632t97c@news.supernews.com...
>
> "Grumman-581" wrote in message
> news:INkHd.23405
>
>> Because we've discussed every diving topic to death by now... All that is
>> left are topics that no matter how much we argue one way or the other, the
>> proponents of one view are not going to change the beliefs of those with
>> opposing views... Kind of like having without being able to orgasm, I
>> guess...
>
> It is also -- wintertime and less people are out diving. Come spring and
> summer -- more people are out diving and thusly talking about their dives --
> gear -- etc.
>
> Or I could just be full of shit! But it sounded good! (-;
>
> Kimber
> --
> I never did give anybody hell. I just told the truth and they thought it
> was hell.
> - Harry S. Truman (1884-1972)

That may be so. Part of the problem is people posting way off topic about Iraq,
politics, guns, etc which really dilutes the content and should not appear here. Then
there was Jammer posting his virus--what kind of contribution is that?

Adam

From:	Dennis $Icarus$
Subject:	Re: what happened?
Date:	Wed, 19 Jan 2005 00:35:49 -0600

"Adam Helberg" wrote in message
news:mMlHd.10364$pZ4.1192@newsread1.news.pas.earthlink.net...
>
> "Kimber" wrote in message
> news:10urmhpe632t97c@news.supernews.com...
> >
> > "Grumman-581" wrote in message
> > news:INkHd.23405
> >
> >> Because we've discussed every diving topic to death by now... All that
is
> >> left are topics that no matter how much we argue one way or the other,
the
> >> proponents of one view are not going to change the beliefs of those
with
> >> opposing views... Kind of like having without being able to orgasm,
I
> >> guess...
> >
> > It is also -- wintertime and less people are out diving. Come spring
and
> > summer -- more people are out diving and thusly talking about their
dives --
> > gear -- etc.
> >
> > Or I could just be full of shit! But it sounded good! (-;
> >
> > Kimber
> > --
> > I never did give anybody hell. I just told the truth and they thought
it
> > was hell.
> > - Harry S. Truman (1884-1972)
>
> That may be so. Part of the problem is people posting way off topic about
Iraq,
> politics, guns, etc which really dilutes the content and should not appear
here. Then

So you'll stop posting in those threads, then? :-)

Dennis
> there was Jammer posting his virus--what kind of contribution is that?
>
> Adam
>
>

From:	Kimber
Subject:	Re: what happened?
Date:	Wed, 19 Jan 2005 00:50:16 -0500

"Adam Helberg" wrote in message news:mMlHd.10364

> That may be so. Part of the problem is people posting way off topic about
Iraq,
> politics, guns, etc which really dilutes the content and should not appear
here. Then
> there was Jammer posting his virus--what kind of contribution is that?

Actually no - there is - was - and will always be tons of talk about
everything else. That is what makes rec.scuba the bar that it is...

If you don't like the chatter - go to www.scubaboard.com or
www.thedecostop.com you will find plenty of diving related talk there
without the , guns and politics. But beware - you have to watch what you
do say...

Kimber
--
"There's no earthly way of knowing which direction we are going. There's no
knowing where we're rowing or which way the river's flowing. Is it raining?
Is it snowing? Is a hur-ra-cane-a blowing? Not a speck of light is showing.
So the danger must be growing. Are the fires of hell a-glowing? Is the
grisly reaper mowing?! YES! THE DANGER MUST BE GROWING! FOR THE ROWERS KEEP
ON ROWING! AND THEY'RE CERTAINLY NOT SHOWING! ANY SIGNS THAT THEY ARE
SLOWING!!!"

From:	Alan Street
Subject:	Re: what happened?
Date:	Tue, 18 Jan 2005 22:35:18 -0800

In article <10urt8sgrk39m51@news.supernews.com>, Kimber
wrote:

€ "Adam Helberg" wrote in message news:mMlHd.10364
€
€ > That may be so. Part of the problem is people posting way off topic about
€ Iraq,
€ > politics, guns, etc which really dilutes the content and should not appear
€ here. Then
€ > there was Jammer posting his virus--what kind of contribution is that?
€
€ Actually no - there is - was - and will always be tons of talk about
€ everything else. That is what makes rec.scuba the bar that it is...
€
€ If you don't like the chatter - go to www.scubaboard.com or
€ www.thedecostop.com you will find plenty of diving related talk there
€ without the , guns and politics. But beware - you have to watch what you
€ do say...
€
€ Kimber

As I was reading your new signature, the very end of Karn Evil 9 (live
version) was playing. It's an interesting confluence of words and music
:-)

From:	Jammer Six
Subject:	Re: what happened?
Date:	Wed, 19 Jan 2005 11:44:51 -0800

In article ,
Adam Helberg wrote:

€ Then there was Jammer posting his virus--what kind of contribution is
€ that?

Viruses only affect members who are "less than".

--
"We're going to rush the hijackers."
-Jeremy Glick, aboard United Airlines flight 93, September 11, 2001

From:	Grumman-581
Subject:	Re: what happened?
Date:	Tue, 18 Jan 2005 22:52:50 -0600

"Adam Helberg" wrote ...
> That may be so. Part of the problem is people posting way
> off topic about Iraq, politics, guns, etc which really dilutes the
> content and should not appear here.

If it wasn't there, there would be *NO* content, so how is it diluting
something that doesn't exist?

> Then there was Jammer posting his virus--what kind of
> contribution is that?

A rather Darwinistic contribution, I suspect... I was running Firefox and it
didn't even make it to my virus scanner...

From:	Curtis
Subject:	Re: what happened?
Date:	Wed, 19 Jan 2005 21:33:11 GMT

"Kimber" wrote

> It is also -- wintertime and less people are out diving. Come spring and
> summer -- more people are out diving and thusly talking about their
> dives --
> gear -- etc.
>
> Or I could just be full of shit! But it sounded good! (-;

Well, I won't say you're full of it, but some of us are diving most
every weekend.

Curtis

From:	Kimber
Subject:	Re: what happened?
Date:	Thu, 20 Jan 2005 08:15:20 -0500

"Curtis" wrote in message
news:rmAHd.50206$w62.48812@bgtnsc05-news.ops.worldnet.att.net...
>
> "Kimber" wrote
>
> > It is also -- wintertime and less people are out diving. Come spring
and
> > summer -- more people are out diving and thusly talking about their
> > dives --
> > gear -- etc.
> >
> > Or I could just be full of shit! But it sounded good! (-;
>
> Well, I won't say you're full of it, but some of us are diving most
> every weekend.

I didn't say "no people" -- I said less people! Sheesh Curtis! (-;

Not everybody is as lucky as you to be able to be diving so much. But give
me a bit more time.... (-;

Kimber
--
Arafu at dawnsio mewn adlaw
(Take time to dance in the rain)

From:	Curtis
Subject:	Re: what happened?
Date:	Thu, 20 Jan 2005 23:56:52 GMT

"Kimber" wrote

> I didn't say "no people" -- I said less people! Sheesh Curtis! (-;
>
> Not everybody is as lucky as you to be able to be diving so much. But
> give
> me a bit more time.... (-;

Hopefully soon, I'll save you some water.......

Curtis

From:	Jammer Six
Subject:	Re: what happened?
Date:	Tue, 18 Jan 2005 17:11:30 -0800

In article <29mdnU4uw8nfiXDcRVn-sA@comcast.com>, Don
wrote:

€ Is there a better ng for info?

Yes, there is.

Go find it.

--
"We're going to rush the hijackers."
-Jeremy Glick, aboard United Airlines flight 93, September 11, 2001

From:	Dennis $Icarus$
Subject:	Re: what happened?
Date:	Tue, 18 Jan 2005 12:16:38 -0600

"Don" wrote in message
news:29mdnU4uw8nfiXDcRVn-sA@comcast.com...
> This ng used to be a good resource. Is there a better ng for info?
>
>

Still is a good resource. Is there a better ng for info? Depends on what
you're looking for. I doubt it, though.

Dennis

From:	pugetsounddiver at gmail.com
Subject:	Re: what happened?
Date:	20 Jan 2005 09:32:35 -0800

Greg Mossman wrote:
> wrote in message
> news:1106224430.479808.237650@c13g2000cwb.googlegroups.com...
> >
> >> Well, there are quite a few who haven't been threatened, but only
> >> those who don't contradict them.
> >
> > You are a liar.
>
> Seems like there are a lot of liars around this newsgroup lately. Or
just
> one.

You two, for sure!

Or are you going to post a link to proof of I or Popeye threatening you
or Mike? No, you are not. Besides, quit being such a little girl, youre
so big and bad you should be able to kick my ass easy.

Lots of prayer and invocation of God in todays innaugural address, in
fact we just finished another one.

Hope it went right up your ass.
http://www.anncoulter.com/cgi-local/article.cgi

From:	Greg Mossman
Subject:	Re: what happened?
Date:	Thu, 20 Jan 2005 11:04:28 -0800

wrote in message
news:1106242355.263121.185820@c13g2000cwb.googlegroups.com...

> http://www.anncoulter.com/cgi-local/article.cgi

She complains that Clinton's inauguration cost $25 million yet never
mentions that Bush's cost $40 million. Typical two-faced.

Jealous of George Soros' wealth, she wants him to give his billions to
tsunami victims, forgetting that he's already given billions (nearly 3,
according to the Carnegie Corporation).

http://www.carnegie.org/sub/awardees/soros.html

What a bitter woman. Full of hate like the rest of the war-mongering
Republican religious right. Full of hate like you.

You need the Ann Coulter Talking Doll, on sale now for only $27.99:

http://store.yahoo.com/victorystore00/taanncodo.html

Push the button on the figure, and you'll hear such "Coulterisms" as:

"Liberals can't just come out and say they want to take more of our money,
kill babies, and discriminate on the basis of race."

"At least when right-wingers rant, there's a point."

"Swing voters are more appropriately known as the 'idiot voters' because
they have no set of philosophical principles. By the age of fourteen, you're
either a Conservative or a Liberal if you have an IQ above a toaster."

"Why not go to war just for oil? We need oil. What do Hollywood celebrities
imagine fuels their private jets? How do they think their cocaine is
delivered to them?"

"Liberals hate America, they hate flag-wavers, they hate abortion opponents,
they hate all religions except Islam, post 9/11. Even Islamic terrorists
don't hate America like Liberals do. They don't have the energy. If they had
that much energy, they'd have indoor plumbing by now."

This highly collectible doll comes in a display box with information
highlighting Ann's unique contributions to America's political discourse. If
you can't get enough Ann Coulter, you'll want to order the Ann Coulter
Talking Action Figure today!

From:	Dennis $Icarus$
Subject:	Re: what happened?
Date:	Thu, 20 Jan 2005 20:35:55 -0600

"Greg Mossman" wrote in message
news:41f0019a$0$106$6c56adcd@news.qnet.com...
> wrote in message
> news:1106242355.263121.185820@c13g2000cwb.googlegroups.com...
>
> > http://www.anncoulter.com/cgi-local/article.cgi
>
> She complains that Clinton's inauguration cost $25 million yet never
> mentions that Bush's cost $40 million. Typical two-faced.

You dropped the context. Further, Clinton's second inaugural cost....42
million ;-)
She's merely pointing out the hypocrisy of the folks who whine about how
Bush's inaugural costs 40 million, whcih could go to relieve the suffering
in the world and not whining about the monies spent by the other folks.

>
> Jealous of George Soros' wealth, she wants him to give his billions to
> tsunami victims, forgetting that he's already given billions (nearly 3,
> according to the Carnegie Corporation).
>
> http://www.carnegie.org/sub/awardees/soros.html

And how much money does Soros REALLY need? :-)

>
> What a bitter woman. Full of hate like the rest of the war-mongering
> Republican religious right. Full of hate like you.

Oh please :-)

>
> You need the Ann Coulter Talking Doll, on sale now for only $27.99:
>
> http://store.yahoo.com/victorystore00/taanncodo.html
>
> Push the button on the figure, and you'll hear such "Coulterisms" as:
>
> "Liberals can't just come out and say they want to take more of our money,
> kill babies, and discriminate on the basis of race."
>
> "At least when right-wingers rant, there's a point."
>
> "Swing voters are more appropriately known as the 'idiot voters' because
> they have no set of philosophical principles. By the age of fourteen,
you're
> either a Conservative or a Liberal if you have an IQ above a toaster."
>
> "Why not go to war just for oil? We need oil. What do Hollywood
celebrities
> imagine fuels their private jets? How do they think their cocaine is
> delivered to them?"
>
> "Liberals hate America, they hate flag-wavers, they hate abortion
opponents,
> they hate all religions except Islam, post 9/11. Even Islamic terrorists
> don't hate America like Liberals do. They don't have the energy. If they
had
> that much energy, they'd have indoor plumbing by now."
>
> This highly collectible doll comes in a display box with information
> highlighting Ann's unique contributions to America's political discourse.
If
> you can't get enough Ann Coulter, you'll want to order the Ann Coulter
> Talking Action Figure today!
>
>

I'm waiting for the life-size version.

Dennis

From:	Greg Mossman
Subject:	Re: what happened?
Date:	Thu, 20 Jan 2005 19:41:27 -0800

"Dennis (Icarus)" wrote in message
news:U_ZHd.688$Ah.493@fe40.usenetserver.com...

> You dropped the context. Further, Clinton's second inaugural cost....42
> million ;-)
> She's merely pointing out the hypocrisy of the folks who whine about how
> Bush's inaugural costs 40 million, whcih could go to relieve the
> suffering
> in the world and not whining about the monies spent by the other folks.

You mean like the $1 billion a week we're spending in Iraq?

From:	Dennis $Icarus$
Subject:	Re: what happened?
Date:	Thu, 20 Jan 2005 22:00:09 -0600

"Greg Mossman" wrote in message
news:41f07ac4$0$105$6c56adcd@news.qnet.com...
> "Dennis (Icarus)" wrote in message
> news:U_ZHd.688$Ah.493@fe40.usenetserver.com...
>
> > You dropped the context. Further, Clinton's second inaugural cost....42
> > million ;-)
> > She's merely pointing out the hypocrisy of the folks who whine about how
> > Bush's inaugural costs 40 million, whcih could go to relieve the
> > suffering
> > in the world and not whining about the monies spent by the other folks.
>
> You mean like the $1 billion a week we're spending in Iraq?
>
>
>

Thats all part of a worthy goal, yes?
:-)

Dennis

From:	*Scott is a sht head!**
Subject:	Re: what happened?
Date:	Sat, 22 Jan 2005 13:42:09 GMT

"Dennis (Icarus)" wrote in message
news:U_ZHd.688$Ah.493@fe40.usenetserver.com...

>
> I'm waiting for the life-size version.
>

That's just plain twisted but let Coulter know. If there's money in it,
she'll do it. ]

What the h*ll do you see in that scrawny, horsy-faced b!itch, anyway?

From:	Crownfield
Subject:	Re: what happened?
Date:<