I recently heard that a fellow that had gone diving during his cruise
holiday, encountered some trouble and drowned. Details were sketchy since I
heard them second hand from the person that heard it from a diver that was
there.

As I understood it, the fellow had some sort of trouble either during the
dive or immediately upon reaching the surface. He was disoriented at the
surface for some reason. Somehow or other, he ended up with all of his gear
off except for his weightbelt. He ended up on the bottom . . . No one
could get to him fast enough to save him. Actually, I'm not sure they even
managed to recover him.

Does anyone have any more info on this accident?

From:	Greg Mossman
Subject:	Re: Cruise Ship Diver Death?
Date:	Sat, 22 Jan 2005 17:57:01 -0800

"chilly" wrote in message
news:S3sId.140861$Xk.105126@pd7tw3no...

> As I understood it, the fellow had some sort of trouble either during the
> dive or immediately upon reaching the surface. He was disoriented at the
> surface for some reason. Somehow or other, he ended up with all of his
> gear
> off except for his weightbelt. He ended up on the bottom . . . No one
> could get to him fast enough to save him. Actually, I'm not sure they
> even
> managed to recover him.
>
> Does anyone have any more info on this accident?

CDNN does:

http://www.cdnn.info/safety/s040101b/s040101b.html

They probably made it up. I couldn't find backup in either the Concord, NH
local rag or the Cayman online news.

From:	Paul Christenson via ScubaMonster.com
Subject:	Re: Cruise Ship Diver Death?
Date:	Sun, 23 Jan 2005 02:50:24 GMT

Well the person is question is indeed dead...

HEINECKE, Carl David, 54; Concord, NH; Nwu, Feinberg Sch of Med, Chicago Il 60611 1974; certified by the American Board of Anesthesiology; died December 29, 2003

http://www.ama-assn.org/ama/pub/category/12853.html#H

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From:	chilly
Subject:	Re: Cruise Ship Diver Death?
Date:	Sun, 23 Jan 2005 05:10:02 GMT

"Paul Christenson via ScubaMonster.com" wrote in
message news:dcc7abec9d394888bb59367ffdd85999@ScubaMonster.com...
> Well the person is question is indeed dead...
>
> HEINECKE, Carl David, 54; Concord, NH; Nwu, Feinberg Sch of Med, Chicago
Il 60611 1974; certified by the American Board of Anesthesiology; died
December 29, 2003
>
> http://www.ama-assn.org/ama/pub/category/12853.html#H

Oh geez, good point. It's not the same guy.

One year apart . . .

From:	Paul Christenson via ScubaMonster.com
Subject:	Re: Cruise Ship Diver Death?
Date:	Sun, 23 Jan 2005 06:13:09 GMT

If you had bothered to check the date of the article you referenced

http://www.cdnn.info/safety/s040101b/s040101b.html

You would see that it was JAN 1 2004...

It was referencing the same individual

Paul in VT

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From:	chilly
Subject:	Re: Cruise Ship Diver Death?
Date:	Sun, 23 Jan 2005 07:49:54 GMT

"Paul Christenson via ScubaMonster.com" wrote in
message news:362e44cd216c4a65b7f1fef4abca05d3@ScubaMonster.com...
> If you had bothered to check the date of the article you referenced
>
> http://www.cdnn.info/safety/s040101b/s040101b.html
>
> You would see that it was JAN 1 2004...
>
> It was referencing the same individual
>
>
> Paul in VT

I'm not sure who you are trying to talk to Paul, but my original query was
with regard to a cruiseship diver who drowned *this* year.

So, there still have been no results, in that regard.

From:	Paul Christenson via ScubaMonster.com
Subject:	Re: Cruise Ship Diver Death?
Date:	Mon, 24 Jan 2005 04:03:36 GMT

Chilly

I was responding to Greg's reference in the CDNN article...

Paul in VT

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From:	chilly
Subject:	Re: Cruise Ship Diver Death?
Date:	Mon, 24 Jan 2005 04:09:24 GMT

"Paul Christenson via ScubaMonster.com" wrote in
message news:a13137d9806144d5bdc8e376f018bdc6@ScubaMonster.com...
> Chilly
>
> I was responding to Greg's reference in the CDNN article...

To be more effective here at rec.scuba, you should learn how to quote the
poster to whom you respond.

In any event, neither one of you came up with the right guy. The person I'm
referring to, drowned sometime after Christmas 2004.

From:	Dillon Pyron
Subject:	Re: Cruise Ship Diver Death?
Date:	Sun, 23 Jan 2005 18:48:11 GMT

Thus spake "Paul Christenson via ScubaMonster.com"
:

>Well the person is question is indeed dead...
>
>HEINECKE, Carl David, 54; Concord, NH; Nwu, Feinberg Sch of Med, Chicago Il 60611 1974; certified by the American Board of Anesthesiology; died December 29, 2003
>
>http://www.ama-assn.org/ama/pub/category/12853.html#H

Yup, that's "recent" news. Or, as I tell my f-i-l (who reads two week
old newspapers), it's called "news", not "olds".

--
dillon

"When the French are against it, you know we can't
be far wrong." - Adm. Bobbie Ray Inman

From:	chilly
Subject:	Re: Cruise Ship Diver Death?
Date:	Sun, 23 Jan 2005 05:10:02 GMT

"Greg Mossman" wrote in message
news:41f30548$0$105$6c56adcd@news.qnet.com...
> "chilly" wrote in message
> news:S3sId.140861$Xk.105126@pd7tw3no...
>
> > As I understood it, the fellow had some sort of trouble either during
the
> > dive or immediately upon reaching the surface. He was disoriented at
the
> > surface for some reason. Somehow or other, he ended up with all of his
> > gear
> > off except for his weightbelt. He ended up on the bottom . . . No one
> > could get to him fast enough to save him. Actually, I'm not sure they
> > even
> > managed to recover him.
> >
> > Does anyone have any more info on this accident?
>
> CDNN does:
>
> http://www.cdnn.info/safety/s040101b/s040101b.html
>
> They probably made it up.

I can't believe you read that rag.

> I couldn't find backup in either the Concord, NH
> local rag or the Cayman online news.

In any event, CDNN didn't even have as much info as I had second-hand, well,
other than the possible heart-attack.

From:	Randy Buckner
Subject:	Re: Cruise Ship Diver Death?
Date:	Sun, 23 Jan 2005 07:05:00 GMT

"chilly" wrote in message
news:KkGId.144935$8l.36725@pd7tw1no...
>
> "Greg Mossman" wrote in message
> news:41f30548$0$105$6c56adcd@news.qnet.com...
>> "chilly" wrote in message
>> news:S3sId.140861$Xk.105126@pd7tw3no...
>>
>> > As I understood it, the fellow had some sort of trouble either during
> the
>> > dive or immediately upon reaching the surface. He was disoriented at
> the
>> > surface for some reason. Somehow or other, he ended up with all of his
>> > gear
>> > off except for his weightbelt. He ended up on the bottom . . . No one
>> > could get to him fast enough to save him. Actually, I'm not sure they
>> > even
>> > managed to recover him.
>> >
>> > Does anyone have any more info on this accident?
>>
>> CDNN does:
>>
>> http://www.cdnn.info/safety/s040101b/s040101b.html
>>
>> They probably made it up.
>
> I can't believe you read that rag.
>
>> I couldn't find backup in either the Concord, NH
>> local rag or the Cayman online news.
>
> In any event, CDNN didn't even have as much info as I had second-hand,
> well,
> other than the possible heart-attack.
>
>
What's a matter? The ghost story on the same page scare you right out of
your skivies? ;-) That is some pretty high-powered reporting they got there
....

Buck

From:	Greg Mossman
Subject:	Re: Cruise Ship Diver Death?
Date:	Sat, 22 Jan 2005 22:25:15 -0800

"chilly" wrote in message
news:KkGId.144935$8l.36725@pd7tw1no...

>> They probably made it up.
>
> I can't believe you read that rag.

I don't. I do search Google when my friends are too lazy.

> In any event, CDNN didn't even have as much info as I had second-hand,
> well,
> other than the possible heart-attack.

I could have guessed it was a heart attack.

Did you have his name?