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 | | From: | Jim | | Subject: | Wings-level "skid" or "slip"? | | Date: | Tue, 11 Jan 2005 11:34:05 -0800 |
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 | As the weather has kept me on the ground for a couple of weeks, I have indulged my curiosity with some wonderings about skids and slips.
What brought this all to mind was some fairly botched forward slips I have been practicing in gliders. The very long wings allow only slow rolls, but the rudder can produce quite rapid yaw. Consequently, when I fail to lead with adequate aileron I sometimes end up with a rather wings-level, yawed orientation. I have not yet had the nerve to press on to the point of a stall when in this state, so it remains a thought puzzle.
As soon as I can get in the air again I'll see if a little experimentation can clarify some of my thinking.
I'm afraid the following recounting of my wonderings is a bit of a tangle, to say the least, but I would be very grateful for any guidance.
Here is the question that I have been turning over in my mind:
Can a wings-level, rudder-induced, yawed but stable (the yawing motion has stopped) orientation be called a "skid" or a "slip", or do "skid" and "slip" only apply to a banked orientation?
In wings-level flight it doesn't seem possible to apply "too little rudder", as in a slip, for the amount of aileron being applied, just because NO aileron is being applied. Does this mean a wings-level slip is not possible, or not defined?
On the other hand, because no aileron is being applied in wings-level flight it would appear that ANY rudder application would be "too much". Does this mean that a wings-level, stable, yawed orientation is by definition a "skid"?
But a stalled, skidded turn is said to result in a spin "out the bottom", in the direction of the over-applied rudder. Does this suggest that an aircraft that is stalled while in a stable, wings-level, yawed orientation will be likely to spin in the direction of the applied rudder?
In a wings-level, stable yaw, once the aircraft is established in the new position and the yawing moments have stopped, I can see that wing dihedral may result in the leading wing being at a higher AOA than the trailing wing. If this is the case, then it would seem the leading wing, opposite to the applied rudder, would stall first - unless you are applying into-the-skid aileron to counter the dihedral-induced opposite roll, in which case, it may be the trailing wing that is at the higher AOA, and this may well vary with the relative forces produced by the wing dihedral on one hand and the weathercock action of the vertical stabilizer on the other hand.
Can any kind soul help me sort this out?
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