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 | | From: | Phred | | Subject: | Fake tractors and fast electrons [Was: Why are people so RUDE at the grocery store???] | | Date: | Fri, 21 Jan 2005 13:55:25 GMT |
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 | Not sure what this has to do with cooking, or even with "science" come
to that. Whatever... followups to sci.agriculture FWIW.
In article <20050120095852.14029.00000083@mb-m19.aol.com>,
penmart01@aol.como (PENMART01) wrote:
>>Levelwave asks:
>>PENMART01 wrote:
>>> Just last year I made a $50,000.00 tractor purchse, saved on not only the 20%
>>> discount for paying cash but also the outragious interest I would have paid on
>>> a loan, and that loan interest is not a tax write off...
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>>What field did you work in before you retired?
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>What "field"... I guess in light of my tractor comment I'm supposed to say
>something like *soy beans*. hehe
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>I guess you're wondering if I was a farmer... not! I've worked in quite a few
>vocations, from culinary to aircraft to nuclear accelerators.
How fast did you get 'em to go?
> Tractors, real tractors, are expensive... $50K doesn't buy a real farm machine,
Times change. Not so many years ago (well, about 40 IIRC) you could
buy a small, but real, crawler tractor for AUD30k (actually 15k Oz
pounds at the time -- we didn't go "dollars" until the 14th of
February 1966, as the jingle in the back of the ossifying brain still
reminds me!).
>more of a fancy schmancy estate tractor.
>Real farm tractors these days typically run
>$500K and up, the more sophisticated versions don't even need a driver, they
>operate via on board computers and global positioning.... makes nice straight
>rows with no wasted overlapping.
As long as you bloody yanks don't scramble the signal for security
purposes. ;-) But I guess one may be able to neutralise even that if
using one of those differential systems that are still usually needed
for the necessary precision anyway.
>http://www.deere.com/en_US/newsroom/2004/releases/farmersandranchers/04082
>4_starfire.html
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>Here's my new toy, I have the cab (Grand L 3043) with every imaginable option:
>http://www.kubota.com/f/products/l30.cfm
What the hell do they mean by "WIDER FENDER INTERVAL" and why should
you care? But I really love that "NEW DESIGN" feature. 8-)
Cheers, Phred.
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| | From: | PENMART01 | | Subject: | Re: Fake tractors and fast electrons [Was: Why are people so RUDE at the grocery store???] | | Date: | 21 Jan 2005 16:16:26 GMT |
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| >(Phred)
>
>>(PENMART01) wrote:
>>>Levelwave asks:
>>>PENMART01 wrote:
>>>> Just last year I made a $50,000.00 tractor purchse, saved on not only the
>20%
>>>> discount for paying cash but also the outragious interest I would have
>paid on
>>>> a loan, and that loan interest is not a tax write off...
>>>
>>>What field did you work in before you retired?
>>
>>What "field"... I guess in light of my tractor comment I'm supposed to say
>>something like *soy beans*. hehe
>>
>>I guess you're wondering if I was a farmer... not! I've worked in quite a
>few
>>vocations, from culinary to aircraft to nuclear accelerators.
>
>How fast did you get 'em to go?
>
>> Tractors, real tractors, are expensive... $50K doesn't buy a real farm
>machine,
>
>Times change. Not so many years ago (well, about 40 IIRC) you could
>buy a small, but real, crawler tractor for AUD30k (actually 15k Oz
>pounds at the time -- we didn't go "dollars" until the 14th of
>February 1966, as the jingle in the back of the ossifying brain still
>reminds me!).
>
>>more of a fancy schmancy estate tractor.
>>Real farm tractors these days typically run
>>$500K and up, the more sophisticated versions don't even need a driver, they
>>operate via on board computers and global positioning.... makes nice
>straight
>>rows with no wasted overlapping.
>
>As long as you bloody yanks don't scramble the signal for security
>purposes. ;-) But I guess one may be able to neutralise even that if
>using one of those differential systems that are still usually needed
>for the necessary precision anyway.
>
>>http://www.deere.com/en_US/newsroom/2004/releases/farmersandranchers/04082
>>4_starfire.html
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>
>>Here's my new toy, I have the cab (Grand L 3043) with every imaginable
>option:
>>http://www.kubota.com/f/products/l30.cfm
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>What the hell do they mean by "WIDER FENDER INTERVAL" and why should
>you care?
Obviously more room for the operator... especially nice to have the extra space
for turning to look out the rear when in reverse, most especially when when
needing to back up to attach impliments to the 3 point hitch. Anyone who has
ever spent hour after hour operating a tractor would know that one wants all
the creature comforts they can get... tractors have no suspension, and fields
are a heck of a lot bumpier than they appear in that rear view mirror.... a
horse gives a smoother ride. It's nice to have a plush seat and room to shift
about.
http://www.kubota.com/h/Products/L30.cfm
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| | From: | Huw | | Subject: | Re: Fake tractors and fast electrons [Was: Why are people so RUDE at the grocery store???] | | Date: | Sun, 23 Jan 2005 01:29:15 -0000 |
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"PENMART01" wrote
>>
>>>Here's my new toy, I have the cab (Grand L 3043) with every imaginable
>>option:
>>>http://www.kubota.com/f/products/l30.cfm
>>
>>What the hell do they mean by "WIDER FENDER INTERVAL" and why should
>>you care?
>
> Obviously more room for the operator... especially nice to have the extra
> space
> for turning to look out the rear when in reverse, most especially when
> when
> needing to back up to attach impliments to the 3 point hitch. Anyone who
> has
> ever spent hour after hour operating a tractor would know that one wants
> all
> the creature comforts they can get... tractors have no suspension, and
> fields
> are a heck of a lot bumpier than they appear in that rear view mirror....
> a
> horse gives a smoother ride. It's nice to have a plush seat and room to
> shift
> about.
>
> http://www.kubota.com/h/Products/L30.cfm
>
Here is my tractor. A REAL tractor with most extras apart from sat-nav which
I have no need for. It still has radar for its management system and linkage
draft control. I have Datatronic II but Datatronic III with the same
teach-in headland management system as Fendt is now available.
Note that it has front axles suspension and cab suspension, climate control
and separate oil reservoirs for the brakes, hydraulics and the transmission
to avoid contamination when, say, the brakes wear out, which is frequently
the case on lesser tractors in Europe, often at less than 5000 hours even
for 40kph machines. These are 50kph tractors with a recently launched 40kph
version now available for those that do little road work.
http://www.masseyferguson.com.au/AGCO/MF/EAPAC/tractors/7400.htm
Click on links within the page for more information on each system. The web
site does not do justice to the physical machine with its CVT transmission
with various modes of operation.
Huw
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