 | | From: | Steven | | Subject: | where to find excellent online dictionaries for SPANISH, FRENCH and GERMAN ? | | Date: | 20 Jan 2005 03:46:01 -0800 |
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 | Who can help me to find good but free online dictionaries to improve my
knowledge of SPANISH, FRENCH and GERMAN.
Thank you for your tips !
Steven
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| | From: | Harlan Messinger | | Subject: | Re: where to find excellent online dictionaries for SPANISH, FRENCH | | Date: | Thu, 20 Jan 2005 07:54:24 -0500 |
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| Steven wrote:
> Who can help me to find good but free online dictionaries to improve my
> knowledge of SPANISH, FRENCH and GERMAN.
> Thank you for your tips !
Spanish: diccionarios.com (monolingual and English-Spanish-English)
French: Trésor de la langue française informatisé, atilf.atilf.fr
(monolingual)
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| | From: | Gerard van Wilgen | | Subject: | Re: where to find excellent online dictionaries for SPANISH, FRENCH | | Date: | Thu, 20 Jan 2005 22:20:17 +0100 |
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| Steven wrote:
> Who can help me to find good but free online dictionaries to improve my
> knowledge of SPANISH, FRENCH and GERMAN.
> Thank you for your tips !
> Steven
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I have put a few URLs of on-line dictionaries into a database. You can
search for them at:
http://www.majstro.com/Web/Majstro/wboek_zoek.php
Gerard van Wilgen
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| | From: | Herb Martin | | Subject: | Re: where to find excellent online dictionaries for SPANISH, FRENCH and GERMAN ? | | Date: | Fri, 21 Jan 2005 00:17:50 GMT |
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| > I have put a few URLs of on-line dictionaries into a database. You can
> search for them at:
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> http://www.majstro.com/Web/Majstro/wboek_zoek.php
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Excellent. Many of those links are MUCH better than
a cursory glance might reveal.
Good stuff.
--
Herb Martin
"Gerard van Wilgen" wrote in message
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> Steven wrote:
> > Who can help me to find good but free online dictionaries to improve my
> > knowledge of SPANISH, FRENCH and GERMAN.
> > Thank you for your tips !
> > Steven
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> I have put a few URLs of on-line dictionaries into a database. You can
> search for them at:
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> http://www.majstro.com/Web/Majstro/wboek_zoek.php
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>
> Gerard van Wilgen
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| | From: | Des Small | | Subject: | Re: where to find excellent online dictionaries for SPANISH, FRENCH and GERMAN ? | | Date: | Thu, 20 Jan 2005 12:09:13 GMT |
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| "Steven" writes:
> Who can help me to find good but free online dictionaries to improve my
> knowledge of SPANISH, FRENCH and GERMAN.
I still sometimes use for French, even
though it was hard hit when Collins withdrew from its role as content
provider. It also does Spanish and Italian, which I rarely need.
For German I use Leo .
Des
also has five (5) treeware minidictionaries within reach
> Thank you for your tips !
> Steven
>
--
"[T]he structural trend in linguistics which took root with the
International Congresses of the twenties and early thirties [...] had
close and effective connections with phenomenology in its Husserlian
and Hegelian versions." -- Roman Jakobson
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| | From: | Aidan Kehoe | | Subject: | Re: where to find excellent online dictionaries for SPANISH, FRENCH | | Date: | Thu, 20 Jan 2005 12:37:32 +0000 |
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Ar an fichiĂş lá de mĂ Eanair, scrĂobh Des Small:
> > Who can help me to find good but free online dictionaries to improve my
> > knowledge of SPANISH, FRENCH and GERMAN.
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> I still sometimes use for French, even
> though it was hard hit when Collins withdrew from its role as content
> provider. It also does Spanish and Italian, which I rarely need.
The monolingual dictionaries tend to be more complete (IMHO, that’s most of
the way to being “better”) than their bilingual counterparts; for French,
try
http://atilf.atilf.fr/dendien/scripts/tlfiv4/showps.exe?p=combi.htm;java=no;
together with http://www.lib.uchicago.edu/efts/ARTFL/projects/dicos/ .
For German, the Grimms’ etymological dictionary is available online at
http://www.dwb.uni-trier.de/index.html . I’m sure there’s a Spanish one
available.
> Des
> also has five (5) treeware minidictionaries within reach
I find reading using minidictionaries really frustrating. Even small,
non-mini dictionaries drive me spare, when I can get to the third line of
„Harry Potter und die Kammer des Schreckens“ and find a word that’s not in
Harrap’s German-English dictionary, ISBN: 0245606890. Sure, I can try an
interpret the sentence anyway, but chances are that I looked up the word
because I was interested in its meaning as much as in understanding the
sentence. Better to pull out the two-kilo Oxford Duden and have less
annoyance in my life.
--
“Ah come on now Ted, a Volkswagen with a mind of its own, driving all over
the place and going mad, if that’s not scary I don’t know what is.”
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| | From: | Des Small | | Subject: | Re: where to find excellent online dictionaries for SPANISH, FRENCH and GERMAN ? | | Date: | Thu, 20 Jan 2005 13:18:33 GMT |
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| Aidan Kehoe writes:
> Ar an fichiĂş lá de mĂ Eanair, scrĂobh Des Small:
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> > > Who can help me to find good but free online dictionaries to improve my
> > > knowledge of SPANISH, FRENCH and GERMAN.
> >
> > I still sometimes use for French, even
> > though it was hard hit when Collins withdrew from its role as content
> > provider. It also does Spanish and Italian, which I rarely need.
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> The monolingual dictionaries tend to be more complete (IMHO, that’s most of
> the way to being “better”) than their bilingual counterparts; for French,
> try
> http://atilf.atilf.fr/dendien/scripts/tlfiv4/showps.exe?p=combi.htm;java=no;
> together with http://www.lib.uchicago.edu/efts/ARTFL/projects/dicos/ .
Hoorah! Although what I really want is a Gem-sized monolingual or
several: the Robert de Poche is nothing of the sort.
Is there a German equivalent of the fantastic Robert Micro (which also
isn't), BTW?
[...]
> > Des
> > also has five (5) treeware minidictionaries within reach
>
> I find reading using minidictionaries really frustrating. Even small,
> non-mini dictionaries drive me spare, when I can get to the third line of
> „Harry Potter und die Kammer des Schreckens“ and find a word that’s not in
> Harrap’s German-English dictionary, ISBN: 0245606890. Sure, I can try an
> interpret the sentence anyway, but chances are that I looked up the word
> because I was interested in its meaning as much as in understanding the
> sentence. Better to pull out the two-kilo Oxford Duden and have less
> annoyance in my life.
That's not the way I read, though, at least in langwidges I can
actually read rather than just decipher: I tend use dictionary as a
last resort when I can't glark the sense, and I aim for the word most
likely to free up the log jam.
Des
is meticulously careless about such things
--
"[T]he structural trend in linguistics which took root with the
International Congresses of the twenties and early thirties [...] had
close and effective connections with phenomenology in its Husserlian
and Hegelian versions." -- Roman Jakobson
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| | From: | Peter T. Daniels | | Subject: | Re: where to find excellent online dictionaries for SPANISH, FRENCH and GERMAN ? | | Date: | Thu, 20 Jan 2005 14:18:10 GMT |
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| Des Small wrote:
> last resort when I can't glark the sense, and I aim for the word most
Is that Brit for grok?
--
Peter T. Daniels grammatim@att.net
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| | From: | Des Small | | Subject: | Re: where to find excellent online dictionaries for SPANISH, FRENCH and GERMAN ? | | Date: | Thu, 20 Jan 2005 14:27:14 GMT |
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| "Peter T. Daniels" writes:
> Des Small wrote:
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> > last resort when I can't glark the sense, and I aim for the word most
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> Is that Brit for grok?
Certainly not: grok is (from Heinlein IIRC) to have a fully
internalised understanding; glark is to dimly apprehend via contextual
clues.
Des
specialises in xenoglarking
--
"[T]he structural trend in linguistics which took root with the
International Congresses of the twenties and early thirties [...] had
close and effective connections with phenomenology in its Husserlian
and Hegelian versions." -- Roman Jakobson
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| | From: | Brian M. Scott | | Subject: | Re: where to find excellent online dictionaries for SPANISH, FRENCH and GERMAN ? | | Date: | Thu, 20 Jan 2005 10:55:41 -0500 |
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| On Thu, 20 Jan 2005 12:37:32 +0000, Aidan Kehoe
wrote in
in sci.lang:
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> For German, the Grimms’ etymological dictionary is available online at
> http://www.dwb.uni-trier.de/index.html .
Ah, thank you. I'd found uni-trier's on-line versions of
Benecke-MĂĽller-Zarncke and Lexer at
, but
I hadn't stumbled across Grimm.
> I’m sure there’s a Spanish one available.
The Diccionario de la Lengua Española of the Real Academia
Española is at
. The
academy itself is at .
[...]
Brian
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| | From: | Peter T. Daniels | | Subject: | Re: where to find excellent online dictionaries for SPANISH, FRENCH | | Date: | Thu, 20 Jan 2005 14:17:40 GMT |
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| Aidan Kehoe wrote:
> I find reading using minidictionaries really frustrating. Even small,
We find reading your postings really frustrating.
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Peter T. Daniels grammatim@att.net
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| | From: | Brian M. Scott | | Subject: | Re: where to find excellent online dictionaries for SPANISH, FRENCH and GERMAN ? | | Date: | Thu, 20 Jan 2005 10:42:01 -0500 |
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| On Thu, 20 Jan 2005 14:17:40 GMT, "Peter T. Daniels"
wrote in
in sci.lang:
> Aidan Kehoe wrote:
>> I find reading using minidictionaries really frustrating. Even small,
> We find reading your postings really frustrating.
So far as I can tell, most of us don't.
Brian
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| | From: | Peter T. Daniels | | Subject: | Re: where to find excellent online dictionaries for SPANISH, FRENCH and GERMAN ? | | Date: | Thu, 20 Jan 2005 22:58:46 GMT |
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| Brian M. Scott wrote:
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> On Thu, 20 Jan 2005 14:17:40 GMT, "Peter T. Daniels"
> wrote in
> in sci.lang:
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> > Aidan Kehoe wrote:
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> >> I find reading using minidictionaries really frustrating. Even small,
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> > We find reading your postings really frustrating.
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> So far as I can tell, most of us don't.
Do you see his curly quotes as such?
--
Peter T. Daniels grammatim@att.net
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| | From: | Brian M. Scott | | Subject: | Re: where to find excellent online dictionaries for SPANISH, FRENCH and GERMAN ? | | Date: | Fri, 21 Jan 2005 00:30:31 -0500 |
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| On Thu, 20 Jan 2005 22:58:46 GMT, "Peter T. Daniels"
wrote in
in sci.lang:
> Brian M. Scott wrote:
>> On Thu, 20 Jan 2005 14:17:40 GMT, "Peter T. Daniels"
>> wrote in
>> in sci.lang:
>>> Aidan Kehoe wrote:
>>>> I find reading using minidictionaries really frustrating. Even small,
>>> We find reading your postings really frustrating.
>> So far as I can tell, most of us don't.
> Do you see his curly quotes as such?
Yes, until your newsreader mangles them! (I use 40tude
Dialog, which handles utf-8 just fine.)
Brian
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| | From: | Aidan Kehoe | | Subject: | Re: where to find excellent online dictionaries for SPANISH, FRENCH | | Date: | Thu, 20 Jan 2005 14:20:44 +0000 |
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Ar an fichiĂş lá de mĂ Eanair, scrĂobh Peter T. Daniels:
> Aidan Kehoe wrote:
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> > I find reading using minidictionaries really frustrating. Even small,
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> We find reading your postings really frustrating.
I avoid using minidictionaries; I suggest that you avoid reading my posts,
if they cause you frustration.
--
“Ah come on now Ted, a Volkswagen with a mind of its own, driving all over
the place and going mad, if that’s not scary I don’t know what is.”
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| | From: | Peter T. Daniels | | Subject: | Re: where to find excellent online dictionaries for SPANISH, FRENCH | | Date: | Thu, 20 Jan 2005 14:53:16 GMT |
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| Aidan Kehoe wrote:
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> Ar an fichiú lá de mÖ Eanair, scrÖobh Peter T. Daniels:
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> > Aidan Kehoe wrote:
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> > > I find reading using minidictionaries really frustrating. Even small,
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> > We find reading your postings really frustrating.
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> I avoid using minidictionaries; I suggest that you avoid reading my posts,
> if they cause you frustration.
Think how many more people could benefit from your pearls of wisdom if
you simply TURN OFF THE FUCKING CURLY QUOTES.
--
Peter T. Daniels grammatim@att.net
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| | From: | Aidan Kehoe | | Subject: | Re: where to find excellent online dictionaries for SPANISH, FRENCH | | Date: | Thu, 20 Jan 2005 15:41:18 +0000 |
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Ar an fichiĂş lá de mĂ Eanair, scrĂobh Peter T. Daniels:
> Think how many more people could benefit from your pearls of wisdom if
> you simply TURN OFF THE FUCKING CURLY QUOTES.
Are you suggesting they may be responsible for my not getting rock-star
levels of fame from my postings to sci.lang? No worries, in that case--
stadiums are for the Rolling Stones, not my style at all.
--
“Ah come on now Ted, a Volkswagen with a mind of its own, driving all over
the place and going mad, if that’s not scary I don’t know what is.”
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| | From: | Herb Martin | | Subject: | Re: where to find excellent online dictionaries for SPANISH, FRENCH and GERMAN ? | | Date: | Thu, 20 Jan 2005 18:21:16 GMT |
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| Here's a lead no one else offered but it does cost
a few bucks/pounds etc.
http://www.IFinger.com
IFinger seems to make the engine that allows rapid
lookup using hot keys or even just double-clicking
(but I turned that feature off).
There are dictionaries for many languages, usually
various print dictionaries adapted for the computer,
and quite excellent.
Most are for purchase although they are fairly inexpensive
and there are a (very) few free samples. Most have a
complete but time limited demo download.
They will work much faster than the server based
dictionaries, and even when your Internet connection
is down or your travel with a laptop.
--
Herb Martin
"Steven" wrote in message
news:1106221561.455113.168370@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com...
> Who can help me to find good but free online dictionaries to improve my
> knowledge of SPANISH, FRENCH and GERMAN.
> Thank you for your tips !
> Steven
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| | From: | Harlan Messinger | | Subject: | Re: where to find excellent online dictionaries for SPANISH, FRENCH | | Date: | Thu, 20 Jan 2005 14:32:43 -0500 |
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| Herb Martin wrote:
> Here's a lead no one else offered but it does cost
> a few bucks/pounds etc.
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> http://www.IFinger.com
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> IFinger seems to make the engine that allows rapid
> lookup using hot keys or even just double-clicking
> (but I turned that feature off).
Last year I got the English-German-English, English-Spanish-English, and
English-French-English ones for USD 5 each, plus postage, on eBay. Hey,
I see they're available from there now for immediate purchase at USD
2.99. They've got a fairly decent level of detail. If you install them
all, you can enter a word in any of the languages, and it will check
both languages in all the dictionaries for a word of that spelling and
return the results, divided by language, in a summary window. Then you
can open up the one you want to examine in detail.
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| | From: | Herb Martin | | Subject: | Re: where to find excellent online dictionaries for SPANISH, FRENCH and GERMAN ? | | Date: | Thu, 20 Jan 2005 23:57:42 GMT |
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| > Last year I got the English-German-English, English-Spanish-English, and
> English-French-English ones for USD 5 each, plus postage, on eBay. Hey,
> I see they're available from there now for immediate purchase at USD
> 2.99. They've got a fairly decent level of detail. If you install them
> all, you can enter a word in any of the languages, and it will check
> both languages in all the dictionaries for a word of that spelling and
> return the results, divided by language, in a summary window. Then you
> can open up the one you want to examine in detail.
You know I had the Oxford AND the Merriam-Webster
spanish loaded (Eng-Span & Span-Eng) and it was great.
When the demo expired I bought some of those from
eBay but I wasn't absolutely sure that I was (will be)
going to receive the same item.
Glad to hear those are the same dictionary software;
I thought so.
--
Herb Martin
"Harlan Messinger" wrote in message
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> Herb Martin wrote:
> > Here's a lead no one else offered but it does cost
> > a few bucks/pounds etc.
> >
> > http://www.IFinger.com
> >
> > IFinger seems to make the engine that allows rapid
> > lookup using hot keys or even just double-clicking
> > (but I turned that feature off).
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