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 | | From: | Roger Bagula | | Subject: | The Fractal Challenge | | Date: | Fri, 19 Nov 2004 14:31:45 GMT |
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 | The cover of Mandelbrot's book " Multifractals and 1/f Noise" has the Pharoah's breast plate. (ref page 126-127 of this book) The original IFS of this was done by Dr. Monk, but he has lost the material and has only a vague idea of how to reconstruct it using 6 transforms.
The fractal challenge is to reconstruct the IFS for the Pharoah's breast plate in translatable ( at least two recognized computer languages) Computer code. To post the result at sci.math, sci.fractals and sci.nonlinear Respectfully, Roger L. Bagula
tftn@earthlink.net, 11759Waterhill Road, Lakeside,Ca 92040-2905,tel: 619-5610814 : alternative email: rlbtftn@netscape.net URL : http://home.earthlink.net/~tftn
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 | | From: | G. A. Edgar | | Subject: | Re: The Fractal Challenge | | Date: | Fri, 19 Nov 2004 10:09:55 -0500 |
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 | In article <419E0393.7050102@earthlink.net>, Roger Bagula wrote:
> The cover of Mandelbrot's book " Multifractals > and 1/f Noise" has the Pharoah's breast plate. (ref page 126-127 of this > book) > The original IFS of this was done by Dr. Monk, but he has lost the > material and has only a vague idea of how to reconstruct it using 6 > transforms. > > The fractal challenge is to reconstruct the IFS for the Pharoah's breast > plate in translatable > ( at least two recognized computer languages) > Computer code. > To post the result at sci.math, sci.fractals and sci.nonlinear > Respectfully, Roger L. Bagula >
See the cover in question at Amazon.com ... I think this link will work: http://www.amazon.com/gp/reader/0387985395/
-- G. A. Edgar http://www.math.ohio-state.edu/~edgar/
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 | | From: | Roger Bagula | | Subject: | Re: The Fractal Challenge | | Date: | Thu, 25 Nov 2004 20:41:48 GMT |
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 | Hint: ( these links might help at a number theory professor's site) http://klein.math.okstate.edu/IndrasPearls/ http://www.math.okstate.edu/~wrightd/INDRA/ Roger Bagula wrote:
> The cover of Mandelbrot's book " Multifractals > and 1/f Noise" has the Pharoah's breast plate. (ref page 126-127 of > this book) > The original IFS of this was done by Dr. Monk, but he has lost the > material and has only a vague idea of how to reconstruct it using 6 > transforms. > > The fractal challenge is to reconstruct the IFS for the Pharoah's > breast plate in translatable > ( at least two recognized computer languages) > Computer code. > To post the result at sci.math, sci.fractals and sci.nonlinear > Respectfully, Roger L. Bagula > > tftn@earthlink.net, 11759Waterhill Road, Lakeside,Ca 92040-2905,tel: > 619-5610814 : > alternative email: rlbtftn@netscape.net > URL : http://home.earthlink.net/~tftn > >
-- Respectfully, Roger L. Bagula tftn@earthlink.net, 11759Waterhill Road, Lakeside,Ca 92040-2905,tel: 619-5610814 : alternative email: rlbtftn@netscape.net URL : http://home.earthlink.net/~tftn
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 | | From: | Roger Bagula | | Subject: | Re: The Fractal Challenge | | Date: | Sat, 27 Nov 2004 16:42:14 GMT |
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 | The Pharaoh's Breastplate Image
http://math.scranton.edu/monks/pubs/pharaoh/pharaoh.html
Above is an image I produced of the Pharaoh's Breastplate fractal, a limit set of a Kleinian group. I wrote a Maple program to generate the centers and radii of the 6734 circles that make up the image. The data was then converted by another Maple program of mine into a suitable format and read into the public domain ray tracing program, POV-RAY . The image has been published on the cover of the book Multifractals and 1/f Noise (ISBN: 0-387-98539-5) by Benoit Mandelbrot, who helped me with the selection of the textures and the arrangement of the "stones". The first published image of the Pharaoh's Breastplate fractal (to my knowledge) appears in Mandelbrot's book The Fractal Geometry of Nature (ISBN: 0-7167-1186-9) in Plate 199.
Roger Bagula wrote:
> The cover of Mandelbrot's book " Multifractals > and 1/f Noise" has the Pharoah's breast plate. (ref page 126-127 of > this book) > The original IFS of this was done by Dr. Monk, but he has lost the > material and has only a vague idea of how to reconstruct it using 6 > transforms. > > The fractal challenge is to reconstruct the IFS for the Pharoah's > breast plate in translatable > ( at least two recognized computer languages) > Computer code. > To post the result at sci.math, sci.fractals and sci.nonlinear > Respectfully, Roger L. Bagula > > tftn@earthlink.net, 11759Waterhill Road, Lakeside,Ca 92040-2905,tel: > 619-5610814 : > alternative email: rlbtftn@netscape.net > URL : http://home.earthlink.net/~tftn > >
-- Respectfully, Roger L. Bagula tftn@earthlink.net, 11759Waterhill Road, Lakeside,Ca 92040-2905,tel: 619-5610814 : alternative email: rlbtftn@netscape.net URL : http://home.earthlink.net/~tftn
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 | | From: | G. A. Edgar | | Subject: | Re: The Fractal Challenge | | Date: | Wed, 24 Nov 2004 15:27:42 -0500 |
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 | In article <419E0393.7050102@earthlink.net>, Roger Bagula wrote:
> The cover of Mandelbrot's book " Multifractals > and 1/f Noise" has the Pharoah's breast plate. (ref page 126-127 of this > book) > The original IFS of this was done by Dr. Monk, but he has lost the > material and has only a vague idea of how to reconstruct it using 6 > transforms. >
Interesting. Here it is... http://www.math.ohio-state.edu/~edgar/BPlate/index.html
-- G. A. Edgar http://www.math.ohio-state.edu/~edgar/
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 | | From: | Roger Bagula | | Subject: | Re: The Fractal Challenge | | Date: | Wed, 24 Nov 2004 23:17:24 GMT |
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 | Dear Dr. Edgar, That's the Dr. Monk data alright but the challenge was: "The fractal challenge is to reconstruct the IFS for the Pharoah's breast plate in translatable ( at least two recognized computer languages) Computer code."
C++, Basic, Mathematica, MatLab, Maple... Any varifiable computer language that runs on more than one system.
All I care about is that the method isn't lost. G. A. Edgar wrote:
>In article <419E0393.7050102@earthlink.net>, Roger Bagula > wrote: > > > >>The cover of Mandelbrot's book " Multifractals >>and 1/f Noise" has the Pharoah's breast plate. (ref page 126-127 of this >>book) >>The original IFS of this was done by Dr. Monk, but he has lost the >>material and has only a vague idea of how to reconstruct it using 6 >>transforms. >> >> >> > >Interesting. Here it is... > http://www.math.ohio-state.edu/~edgar/BPlate/index.html > > >
-- Respectfully, Roger L. Bagula tftn@earthlink.net, 11759Waterhill Road, Lakeside,Ca 92040-2905,tel: 619-5610814 : alternative email: rlbtftn@netscape.net URL : http://home.earthlink.net/~tftn
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 | | From: | David C. Ullrich | | Subject: | Re: The Fractal Challenge | | Date: | Thu, 25 Nov 2004 06:16:00 -0600 |
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 | On Wed, 24 Nov 2004 23:17:24 GMT, Roger Bagula wrote:
>Dear Dr. Edgar, >That's the Dr. Monk data alright but the challenge was: >"The fractal challenge is to reconstruct the IFS for the Pharoah's >breast plate in translatable >( at least two recognized computer languages) >Computer code."
So the "challenge" was not to find the IFS? A perfectly clear and unambiguous description of the IFS doesn't count, the challenge is to write the actual code?
This would be a much better challenge for a CS 101 class than for sci.math.
>C++, Basic, Mathematica, MatLab, Maple... >Any varifiable computer language that runs on more than one system. > >All I care about is that the method isn't lost. >G. A. Edgar wrote: > >>In article <419E0393.7050102@earthlink.net>, Roger Bagula >> wrote: >> >> >> >>>The cover of Mandelbrot's book " Multifractals >>>and 1/f Noise" has the Pharoah's breast plate. (ref page 126-127 of this >>>book) >>>The original IFS of this was done by Dr. Monk, but he has lost the >>>material and has only a vague idea of how to reconstruct it using 6 >>>transforms. >>> >>> >>> >> >>Interesting. Here it is... >> http://www.math.ohio-state.edu/~edgar/BPlate/index.html >> >> >>
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David C. Ullrich
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 | | From: | Roger Bagula | | Subject: | Re: The Fractal Challenge | | Date: | Thu, 25 Nov 2004 15:10:16 GMT |
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 | Most of this information was available. The definition isn't clear to those who know nothing of Klein groups, Møbius transforms and half plane transforms. It isn't a "linear" affine IFS, so defining circles as this does , doesn't specify their transformations An actual mathematical definition of the transforms that can be "performed" is necessary. Thus, a working program is preferred. Dr . Mauldin gave a definition like this of the appolonian gasket: It wasn't adequate for most people to construct a working program. It was actually clearer than this one is! If it was easy , it would already be on the Internet. Roger Bagula wrote:
> Dear Dr. Edgar, > That's the Dr. Monk data alright but the challenge was: > "The fractal challenge is to reconstruct the IFS for the Pharoah's > breast plate in translatable > ( at least two recognized computer languages) > Computer code." > > C++, Basic, Mathematica, MatLab, Maple... > Any varifiable computer language that runs on more than one system. > > All I care about is that the method isn't lost. > G. A. Edgar wrote: > >> In article <419E0393.7050102@earthlink.net>, Roger Bagula >> wrote: >> >> >> >>> The cover of Mandelbrot's book " Multifractals >>> and 1/f Noise" has the Pharoah's breast plate. (ref page 126-127 of >>> this book) >>> The original IFS of this was done by Dr. Monk, but he has lost the >>> material and has only a vague idea of how to reconstruct it using 6 >>> transforms. >>> >>> >> >> >> Interesting. Here it is... >> http://www.math.ohio-state.edu/~edgar/BPlate/index.html >> >> >> >
-- Respectfully, Roger L. Bagula tftn@earthlink.net, 11759Waterhill Road, Lakeside,Ca 92040-2905,tel: 619-5610814 : alternative email: rlbtftn@netscape.net URL : http://home.earthlink.net/~tftn
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 | | From: | Lee Rudolph | | Subject: | Re: The Fractal Challenge | | Date: | 25 Nov 2004 10:21:48 -0500 |
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 | Roger Bagula writes:
.... >If it was easy , it would already be on the Internet. ....
Hell, if it was , it would already be on the Internet, too!
Lee Rudolph
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 | | From: | Philo D | | Subject: | Re: The Fractal Challenge | | Date: | 5 Dec 2004 06:58:32 -0800 |
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 | See some nice pictures of a similar Kleinian group limit sets in the December Notices. free on line.... http://www.ams.org/notices/200411/200411-toc.html see the paper of David J. Wright.
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