 | | From: | Fabiocco | | Subject: | Can someone explain this? | | Date: | Tue, 11 Jan 2005 10:55:34 GMT |
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 | I found a picture on this site : http://sol.sci.uop.edu/~jfalward/refraction/refraction.html
More specific picture http://sol.sci.uop.edu/jfalward/refraction/criticalanglefiverays.jpg.
I have the same outcome with my software, but can someone explain this? In real world you see only 1 spectrum...
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 | | From: | redbelly | | Subject: | Re: Can someone explain this? | | Date: | 11 Jan 2005 07:03:17 -0800 |
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 | Fabiocco wrote:
> I found a picture on this site : > http://sol.sci.uop.edu/~jfalward/refraction/refraction.html
> More specific picture > http://sol.sci.uop.edu/jfalward/refraction/criticalanglefiverays.jpg
We need more information before your question can be answered. The first link contains many pictures, which one are you referring to? The second link does not work (for me at least), could you recheck that the address is correct?
Mark
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 | | From: | Fabiocco | | Subject: | Re: Can someone explain this? | | Date: | Tue, 11 Jan 2005 15:06:12 GMT |
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 | "redbelly" wrote in news:1105453495.276287.48570 @f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com:
> We need more information before your question can be answered. > The first link contains many pictures, which one are you referring to? > The second link does not work (for me at least), could you recheck that > the address is correct?
The address to the picture is http://sol.sci.uop.edu/~jfalward/refraction/criticalanglefiverays.jpg
I don't know why that '~' disappeared, but I apologize.
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 | | From: | redbelly | | Subject: | Re: Can someone explain this? | | Date: | 11 Jan 2005 09:16:44 -0800 |
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 | What aspect about the picture is confusing you?
Five separate beams are incident upon the prism, each at a different location and angle. Each beam is partically reflected & partially transmitted at each glass-air interface. Exception: at certain angles, there is total-internal-reflection. The picture shows it all, quite clearly.
There is no spectrum to see in the picture, as the light is monochromatic. They are just illustrating reflection and refraction, and not talking about spectra. Again, there are five separate input beams, not just one.
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 | | From: | Pieter Kuiper | | Subject: | Re: Can someone explain this? | | Date: | Tue, 11 Jan 2005 15:59:38 GMT |
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 | Fabiocco wrote:
> I found a picture on this site : > http://sol.sci.uop.edu/~jfalward/refraction/refraction.html > http://sol.sci.uop.edu/~jfalward/refraction/criticalanglefiverays.jpg. > > I have the same outcome with my software, but can someone explain this? In > real world you see only 1 spectrum...
It depends on the distance from the screen to the prism.
-- "Electrons damage the brain," said Farish. (Donna Tartt)
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 | | From: | Sam Goldwasser | | Subject: | Re: Can someone explain this? | | Date: | 11 Jan 2005 12:19:49 -0500 |
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 | Pieter Kuiper writes:
> Fabiocco wrote: > > > I found a picture on this site : > > http://sol.sci.uop.edu/~jfalward/refraction/refraction.html > > http://sol.sci.uop.edu/~jfalward/refraction/criticalanglefiverays.jpg. > > > > I have the same outcome with my software, but can someone explain this? In > > real world you see only 1 spectrum... > > It depends on the distance from the screen to the prism.
Search on: "Total internal reflection".
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 | | From: | Pieter Kuiper | | Subject: | Re: Can someone explain this? | | Date: | Tue, 11 Jan 2005 18:05:09 GMT |
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 | Sam Goldwasser wrote:
> Pieter Kuiper writes: > > > Fabiocco wrote: > > > > > I found a picture on this site : > > > http://sol.sci.uop.edu/~jfalward/refraction/refraction.html > > > http://sol.sci.uop.edu/~jfalward/refraction/criticalanglefiverays.jpg. > > > > > > I have the same outcome with my software, but can someone explain this? > > > In > > > real world you see only 1 spectrum... > > > > It depends on the distance from the screen to the prism. > > Search on: "Total internal reflection".
Of course, that is what the figure is meant to illustrate.
But as I understood the OPs question, he was wondering about the three transmitted rays each giving a separate spectrum.
-- "Electrons damage the brain," said Farish. (Donna Tartt)
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 | | From: | Sam Goldwasser | | Subject: | Re: Can someone explain this? | | Date: | 11 Jan 2005 19:22:13 -0500 |
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 | Pieter Kuiper writes:
> Sam Goldwasser wrote: > > > Pieter Kuiper writes: > > > > > Fabiocco wrote: > > > > > > > I found a picture on this site : > > > > http://sol.sci.uop.edu/~jfalward/refraction/refraction.html > > > > http://sol.sci.uop.edu/~jfalward/refraction/criticalanglefiverays.jpg. > > > > > > > > I have the same outcome with my software, but can someone explain this? > > > > In > > > > real world you see only 1 spectrum... > > > > > > It depends on the distance from the screen to the prism. > > > > Search on: "Total internal reflection". > > Of course, that is what the figure is meant to illustrate. > > But as I understood the OPs question, he was wondering about the three > transmitted rays each giving a separate spectrum.
They don't appear significantly different to me, just varying in intensity.
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 | | From: | Fabiocco | | Subject: | Re: Can someone explain this? | | Date: | Wed, 12 Jan 2005 09:01:05 GMT |
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 | Pieter Kuiper wrote in news:Pieter.Kuiper-50A144.19065011012005@newsc.telia.net: > But as I understood the OPs question, he was wondering about the three > transmitted rays each giving a separate spectrum.
You're right actually. I wonder why the rays doesn't interact when they come out. If the rays are sent one by one, this normal, but if they are sent 5 at one time I thought they would interact. In real world I never saw 5 seperate rays exiting a prism (a bit based on not seeing different spectra exiting, monochromatic light in real world is not something you see :))
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 | | From: | Sam Goldwasser | | Subject: | Re: Can someone explain this? | | Date: | 12 Jan 2005 15:16:17 -0500 |
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 | Fabiocco writes:
> Pieter Kuiper wrote in > news:Pieter.Kuiper-50A144.19065011012005@newsc.telia.net: > > But as I understood the OPs question, he was wondering about the three > > transmitted rays each giving a separate spectrum. > > > You're right actually. I wonder why the rays doesn't interact when they > come out. If the rays are sent one by one, this normal, but if they are > sent 5 at one time I thought they would interact. > In real world I never saw 5 seperate rays exiting a prism (a bit based on > not seeing different spectra exiting, monochromatic light in real world is > not something you see :))
Five separate rays entered, five separate rays exit. Photons do not interact in a linear medium like glass or air (at least not until you get to very high power densities).
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