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 | | From: | BAC | | Subject: | Re: Hunting is banned! | | Date: | Thu, 25 Nov 2004 10:37:41 -0000 |
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 | "Rooney" wrote in message news:6kv9q01l1cjvn5a3nemjvj0327iq78965h@4ax.com... > On Wed, 24 Nov 2004 19:44:00 -0000, "BAC" > wrote: > > > > >"Mole" wrote in message > >news:co2mbb$mbh$1@sparta.btinternet.com... > >> > >> "Haggus the orriblulus" wrote in message > >> news:30jg5pF1942tpU1@uni-berlin.de... > >> On Wed, 24 Nov 2004 13:08:16 +0000 (UTC), "Mole" > >> wrote: > >> > Certainly not the 'pleasure' of fox hunting > >> >since I have never been to a fox hunt nor ever felt the slightest desire > >to > >> >do so. > >> > >> >Not another denier? > >> > >> Yadda yadda yadda > >> > >> Sigh! Here we go again. Another supposed animal lover who will save all > >> the animals even if it kills them in the process. Why don't you go and > >> release a few more mink in Norfolk - they love to eat voles and other > >> British wildlife. Did the AR morons think of this before they released > >the > >> first lot? No! Duh! Another own goal. > >> Ok, here's a very simple question for you (I'm typing this slowly so > >you'll > >> understand it). How can the hunting ban be enforced effectively if > >> thousands of people ignore it and carry on hunting? I've asked this > >before > >> and no-one has come up with a reasonable reply. A rant-free answer please > >> (if you can manage one). > >> > > > >The control freak Government will probably amend the dangerous dogs act to > >include greyhounds, lurchers, foxhounds, terriers etc. > > > > > My highly bad tempered mongrel will be OK then. She just thinks she's > a pit bull. >
LOL
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 | | From: | Rooney | | Subject: | Re: Hunting is banned! | | Date: | Thu, 25 Nov 2004 11:25:03 +0000 |
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 | On Thu, 25 Nov 2004 10:37:41 -0000, "BAC" wrote:
>LOL >
Good to see some sanity here. Mary thinks I'm a fool because she hasn't understood the shooting legislation and won't accept advice; Christine thinks I'm a liar because I own horses; and Oz thinks I'm a bigot because I had to remind him what democracy means. Strange old world.
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 | | From: | BAC | | Subject: | Re: Hunting is banned! | | Date: | Thu, 25 Nov 2004 11:37:18 -0000 |
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 | "Rooney" wrote in message news:m3gbq05p9cilm7b0nsu82d0v3j6i5lnp2h@4ax.com... > On Thu, 25 Nov 2004 10:37:41 -0000, "BAC" > wrote: > > >LOL > > > > > Good to see some sanity here. Mary thinks I'm a fool because she > hasn't understood the shooting legislation and won't accept advice; > Christine thinks I'm a liar because I own horses; and Oz thinks I'm a > bigot because I had to remind him what democracy means. > Strange old world. >
It is that. But I'm sure they'd each dispute your analysis of their criticisms :-)
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 | | From: | Rooney | | Subject: | Re: Hunting is banned! | | Date: | Thu, 25 Nov 2004 12:07:36 +0000 |
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 | On Thu, 25 Nov 2004 11:37:18 -0000, "BAC" wrote:
> >"Rooney" wrote in message >news:m3gbq05p9cilm7b0nsu82d0v3j6i5lnp2h@4ax.com... >> On Thu, 25 Nov 2004 10:37:41 -0000, "BAC" >> wrote: >> >> >LOL >> > >> >> >> Good to see some sanity here. Mary thinks I'm a fool because she >> hasn't understood the shooting legislation and won't accept advice; >> Christine thinks I'm a liar because I own horses; and Oz thinks I'm a >> bigot because I had to remind him what democracy means. >> Strange old world. >> > >It is that. But I'm sure they'd each dispute your analysis of their >criticisms :-) >
I doubt it. They just descend to personal abuse when they come across opinions they don't like, or arguments they can't refute. They are symptomatic of what's wrong with some of these ngs.
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 | | From: | Old Codger | | Subject: | Re: Hunting is banned! | | Date: | Sat, 27 Nov 2004 17:13:14 -0000 |
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 | Rooney wrote: > On Thu, 25 Nov 2004 11:37:18 -0000, "BAC" > wrote: > >> >> "Rooney" wrote in message >> news:m3gbq05p9cilm7b0nsu82d0v3j6i5lnp2h@4ax.com... >>> On Thu, 25 Nov 2004 10:37:41 -0000, "BAC" >>> wrote: >>> >>>> LOL >>>> >>> >>> >>> Good to see some sanity here. Mary thinks I'm a fool because she >>> hasn't understood the shooting legislation and won't accept advice; >>> Christine thinks I'm a liar because I own horses; and Oz thinks I'm >>> a bigot because I had to remind him what democracy means. >>> Strange old world. >>> >> >> It is that. But I'm sure they'd each dispute your analysis of their >> criticisms :-) >> > > I doubt it. They just descend to personal abuse when they come across > opinions they don't like, or arguments they can't refute. They are > symptomatic of what's wrong with some of these ngs.
Are you sure you have your facts correct? I have *never* noticed any of the three you specifically mentioned descending to personal abuse.
-- Old Codger e-mail use reply to field
What matters in politics is not what happens, but what you can make people believe has happened. [Janet Daley 27/8/2003]
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 | | From: | Rooney | | Subject: | Re: Hunting is banned! | | Date: | Sat, 27 Nov 2004 18:02:58 +0000 |
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 | On Sat, 27 Nov 2004 17:13:14 -0000, "Old Codger" wrote:
>Rooney wrote: >> On Thu, 25 Nov 2004 11:37:18 -0000, "BAC" >> wrote: >> >>> >>> "Rooney" wrote in message >>> news:m3gbq05p9cilm7b0nsu82d0v3j6i5lnp2h@4ax.com... >>>> On Thu, 25 Nov 2004 10:37:41 -0000, "BAC" >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>>> LOL >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Good to see some sanity here. Mary thinks I'm a fool because she >>>> hasn't understood the shooting legislation and won't accept advice; >>>> Christine thinks I'm a liar because I own horses; and Oz thinks I'm >>>> a bigot because I had to remind him what democracy means. >>>> Strange old world. >>>> >>> >>> It is that. But I'm sure they'd each dispute your analysis of their >>> criticisms :-) >>> >> >> I doubt it. They just descend to personal abuse when they come across >> opinions they don't like, or arguments they can't refute. They are >> symptomatic of what's wrong with some of these ngs. > >Are you sure you have your facts correct? I have *never* noticed any of the >three you specifically mentioned descending to personal abuse.
Then you should read more widely or more closely. Start with this thread!
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 | | From: | Old Codger | | Subject: | Re: Hunting is banned! | | Date: | Sat, 27 Nov 2004 20:44:25 -0000 |
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 | Rooney wrote: > On Sat, 27 Nov 2004 17:13:14 -0000, "Old Codger" > wrote: > >> Rooney wrote: >>> On Thu, 25 Nov 2004 11:37:18 -0000, "BAC" >>> wrote: >>> >>>> >>>> "Rooney" wrote in message >>>> news:m3gbq05p9cilm7b0nsu82d0v3j6i5lnp2h@4ax.com... >>>>> On Thu, 25 Nov 2004 10:37:41 -0000, "BAC" >>>>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> LOL >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Good to see some sanity here. Mary thinks I'm a fool because she >>>>> hasn't understood the shooting legislation and won't accept >>>>> advice; Christine thinks I'm a liar because I own horses; and Oz >>>>> thinks I'm a bigot because I had to remind him what democracy >>>>> means. >>>>> Strange old world. >>>>> >>>> >>>> It is that. But I'm sure they'd each dispute your analysis of their >>>> criticisms :-) >>>> >>> >>> I doubt it. They just descend to personal abuse when they come >>> across opinions they don't like, or arguments they can't refute. >>> They are symptomatic of what's wrong with some of these ngs. >> >> Are you sure you have your facts correct? I have *never* noticed >> any of the three you specifically mentioned descending to personal >> abuse. > > > Then you should read more widely or more closely. Start with this > thread!
I have re-read all posts by the three in this thread and if you consider any of those posts to be "personal abuse" you are very sensitive and have a very thin skin. Your accusing them of resorting to personal abuse is much stronger than any of the opinions of you they have expressed. In particular, Oz did not suggest you were a bigot. He did say:
"One function of a working democracy is to allow freedom for minorities within it, where what they do does not affect others.
Otherwise you end up with a bigoted tyranny."
and
"Ah, I see, no minorities allowed, bigots rule.
I guess that would suit you."
Neither of those quotes suggests you are a bigot. The second quote does suggest you might be happy to have bigots ruling, but that is a long way from suggesting you yourself are a bigot.
I can find nothing from Mary or Christine suggesting you are a fool or a liar.
I am beginning to form the impression that you either do not read posts properly or you invent to provide a response suitable for your needs.
Sorry about that, I would be delighted to be proved wrong.
-- Old Codger e-mail use reply to field
What matters in politics is not what happens, but what you can make people believe has happened. [Janet Daley 27/8/2003]
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 | | From: | Christina Websell | | Subject: | Re: Hunting is banned! | | Date: | Sat, 27 Nov 2004 21:54:51 -0000 |
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 | "Old Codger" wrote in message news:41a8e72f$0$529$ed2619ec@ptn-nntp-reader03.plus.net... > Rooney wrote: >> On Sat, 27 Nov 2004 17:13:14 -0000, "Old Codger" >> wrote: >> >>> Rooney wrote: >>>> On Thu, 25 Nov 2004 11:37:18 -0000, "BAC" >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>>> >>>>> "Rooney" wrote in message >>>>> news:m3gbq05p9cilm7b0nsu82d0v3j6i5lnp2h@4ax.com... >>>>>> On Thu, 25 Nov 2004 10:37:41 -0000, "BAC" >>>>>> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> LOL >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Good to see some sanity here. Mary thinks I'm a fool because she >>>>>> hasn't understood the shooting legislation and won't accept >>>>>> advice; Christine thinks I'm a liar because I own horses; and Oz >>>>>> thinks I'm a bigot because I had to remind him what democracy >>>>>> means. >>>>>> Strange old world. >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> It is that. But I'm sure they'd each dispute your analysis of their >>>>> criticisms :-) >>>>> >>>> >>>> I doubt it. They just descend to personal abuse when they come >>>> across opinions they don't like, or arguments they can't refute. >>>> They are symptomatic of what's wrong with some of these ngs. >>> >>> Are you sure you have your facts correct? I have *never* noticed >>> any of the three you specifically mentioned descending to personal >>> abuse. >> >> >> Then you should read more widely or more closely. Start with this >> thread! > > I have re-read all posts by the three in this thread and if you consider > any of those posts to be "personal abuse" you are very sensitive and have > a very thin skin. Your accusing them of resorting to personal abuse is > much stronger than any of the opinions of you they have expressed. In > particular, Oz did not suggest you were a bigot. He did say: > > "One function of a working democracy is to allow freedom for minorities > within it, where what they do does not affect others. > > Otherwise you end up with a bigoted tyranny." > > and > > "Ah, I see, no minorities allowed, bigots rule. > > I guess that would suit you." > > Neither of those quotes suggests you are a bigot. The second quote does > suggest you might be happy to have bigots ruling, but that is a long way > from suggesting you yourself are a bigot. > > I can find nothing from Mary or Christine suggesting you are a fool or a > liar. > > I am beginning to form the impression that you either do not read posts > properly or you invent to provide a response suitable for your needs. > > Sorry about that, I would be delighted to be proved wrong. > > -- > Old Codger
I have *never* posted personal abuse to anyone. Sometimes I disagree with what they say, but it's not abuse to not agree, surely. Just another opinion. Now, I'd definitely have an excuse to abuse Rooney, as he once suggested that I was a prostitute, (and I'll never forgive him for that) which is ridiculous. I've refrained from abusing him, but claim the right to disagree with his views. Paul seems to have too much to say when he is drunk. Without thinking of the offense he causes.
Tina
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 | | From: | Rooney | | Subject: | Re: Hunting is banned! | | Date: | Sat, 27 Nov 2004 21:56:13 +0000 |
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 | On Sat, 27 Nov 2004 21:54:51 -0000, "Christina Websell" wrote:
>Now, I'd definitely have an excuse to abuse Rooney, as he once suggested >that I was a prostitute
You, madam, are a liar.
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 | | From: | Dorian | | Subject: | Re: Hunting is banned! | | Date: | Sat, 27 Nov 2004 22:00:20 GMT |
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 | On Sat, 27 Nov 2004 21:56:13 +0000, Rooney wrote:
>On Sat, 27 Nov 2004 21:54:51 -0000, "Christina Websell" > wrote: > >>Now, I'd definitely have an excuse to abuse Rooney, as he once suggested >>that I was a prostitute > > >You, madam, are a liar.
Churchill?
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 | | From: | Christina Websell | | Subject: | Re: Hunting is banned! | | Date: | Sat, 27 Nov 2004 22:39:18 -0000 |
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 | "Rooney" wrote in message news:4vthq0t61uepthbog0ha9cfgjpbiumd0bl@4ax.com... > On Sat, 27 Nov 2004 21:54:51 -0000, "Christina Websell" > wrote: > >>Now, I'd definitely have an excuse to abuse Rooney, as he once suggested >>that I was a prostitute > > > You, madam, are a liar. > > -- > > R > o > o > n > e > y
Oooh. Not so. I remember very clearly that you said something like "was it you behind the bus shelter in Catherine Street?" I can't be bothered to google for it, but it will be there. I haven't, and never will forgive you for this. It's so unnecessary in a birding group.
Tina
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 | | From: | Franz Heymann | | Subject: | Re: Hunting is banned! | | Date: | Sun, 28 Nov 2004 06:36:40 +0000 (UTC) |
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 | "Christina Websell" wrote in message news:30se0pF33qsp6U1@uni-berlin.de...
[snip]
> Oooh. Not so. I remember very clearly that you said something like "was it > you behind the bus shelter in Catherine Street?" I can't be bothered to > google for it, but it will be there. I haven't, and never will forgive you > for this. > It's so unnecessary in a birding group.
But uk.rec.gardening is not a birding group.
Franz
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 | | From: | Rooney | | Subject: | Re: Hunting is banned! | | Date: | Sun, 28 Nov 2004 10:48:49 +0000 |
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 | On Sun, 28 Nov 2004 06:36:40 +0000 (UTC), "Franz Heymann" wrote:
> >"Christina Websell" wrote in >message news:30se0pF33qsp6U1@uni-berlin.de... > >[snip] > >> Oooh. Not so. I remember very clearly that you said something like >"was it >> you behind the bus shelter in Catherine Street?" I can't be >bothered to >> google for it, but it will be there. I haven't, and never will >forgive you >> for this. >> It's so unnecessary in a birding group. > >But uk.rec.gardening is not a birding group. > >Franz >
Nor is demon.local. It's a truth-seekers group. We are used to abuse - see the FAQ - but we don't much care for dodgy argument and irrationalism. Many of us retain vast archives - including things that Google doesn't archive.
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 | | From: | Phil Kyle | | Subject: | Re: Hunting is banned! | | Date: | Sun, 28 Nov 2004 22:56:45 +0000 |
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 | On Sun, 28 Nov 2004 10:48:49 +0000, Rooney wrote:
>On Sun, 28 Nov 2004 06:36:40 +0000 (UTC), "Franz Heymann" > wrote: > >> >>"Christina Websell" wrote in >>message news:30se0pF33qsp6U1@uni-berlin.de... >> >>[snip] >> >>> Oooh. Not so. I remember very clearly that you said something like >>"was it >>> you behind the bus shelter in Catherine Street?" I can't be >>bothered to >>> google for it, but it will be there. I haven't, and never will >>forgive you >>> for this. >>> It's so unnecessary in a birding group. >> >>But uk.rec.gardening is not a birding group. >> >>Franz >> > >Nor is demon.local. >It's a truth-seekers group. We are used to abuse - see the FAQ - but >we don't much care for dodgy argument and irrationalism. Many of us >retain vast archives - including things that Google doesn't archive.
Indeed. We are The Saviours of Usenet(TM).
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 | | From: | Rooney | | Subject: | Re: Hunting is banned! | | Date: | Sat, 27 Nov 2004 22:44:57 +0000 |
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 | On Sat, 27 Nov 2004 22:39:18 -0000, "Christina Websell" wrote:
>Oooh. Not so. I remember very clearly that you said something like "was it >you behind the bus shelter in Catherine Street?" I can't be bothered to >google for it, but it will be there. I haven't, and never will forgive you >for this. >It's so unnecessary in a birding group. >
Utterly deranged. Welcome to demon.local.
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 | | From: | Steve Terry | | Subject: | Re: Hunting is banned! | | Date: | Sat, 27 Nov 2004 22:58:02 +0000 |
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 | On Sat, 27 Nov 2004 22:44:57 +0000, Rooney wrote:
>On Sat, 27 Nov 2004 22:39:18 -0000, "Christina Websell" > wrote: > >>Oooh. Not so. I remember very clearly that you said something like "was it >>you behind the bus shelter in Catherine Street?" I can't be bothered to >>google for it, but it will be there. I haven't, and never will forgive you >>for this. >>It's so unnecessary in a birding group. >> > >Utterly deranged. >Welcome to demon.local.
That's UK.Conservation.....lol
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 | | From: | Rooney | | Subject: | Re: Hunting is banned! | | Date: | Sat, 27 Nov 2004 23:04:46 +0000 |
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 | On Sat, 27 Nov 2004 22:58:02 +0000, Steve Terry wrote:
>On Sat, 27 Nov 2004 22:44:57 +0000, Rooney wrote: > >>On Sat, 27 Nov 2004 22:39:18 -0000, "Christina Websell" >> wrote: >> >>>Oooh. Not so. I remember very clearly that you said something like "was it >>>you behind the bus shelter in Catherine Street?" I can't be bothered to >>>google for it, but it will be there. I haven't, and never will forgive you >>>for this. >>>It's so unnecessary in a birding group. >>> >> >>Utterly deranged. >>Welcome to demon.local. > >That's UK.Conservation.....lol > > >The cuckoos are early
That place is a hotbed of Mabbettry and unnatural practices. But there is hope: if we can clean up demon.local, albeit over some years, we could do the same for the conservation ng.
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 | | From: | Dorian | | Subject: | Re: Hunting is banned! | | Date: | Sat, 27 Nov 2004 21:59:52 GMT |
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 | On Sat, 27 Nov 2004 21:54:51 -0000, "Christina Websell" wrote:
> >"Old Codger" wrote in message >news:41a8e72f$0$529$ed2619ec@ptn-nntp-reader03.plus.net... >> Rooney wrote: >>> On Sat, 27 Nov 2004 17:13:14 -0000, "Old Codger" >>> wrote: >>> >>>> Rooney wrote: >>>>> On Thu, 25 Nov 2004 11:37:18 -0000, "BAC" >>>>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> "Rooney" wrote in message >>>>>> news:m3gbq05p9cilm7b0nsu82d0v3j6i5lnp2h@4ax.com... >>>>>>> On Thu, 25 Nov 2004 10:37:41 -0000, "BAC" >>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> LOL >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Good to see some sanity here. Mary thinks I'm a fool because she >>>>>>> hasn't understood the shooting legislation and won't accept >>>>>>> advice; Christine thinks I'm a liar because I own horses; and Oz >>>>>>> thinks I'm a bigot because I had to remind him what democracy >>>>>>> means. >>>>>>> Strange old world. >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> It is that. But I'm sure they'd each dispute your analysis of their >>>>>> criticisms :-) >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> I doubt it. They just descend to personal abuse when they come >>>>> across opinions they don't like, or arguments they can't refute. >>>>> They are symptomatic of what's wrong with some of these ngs. >>>> >>>> Are you sure you have your facts correct? I have *never* noticed >>>> any of the three you specifically mentioned descending to personal >>>> abuse. >>> >>> >>> Then you should read more widely or more closely. Start with this >>> thread! >> >> I have re-read all posts by the three in this thread and if you consider >> any of those posts to be "personal abuse" you are very sensitive and have >> a very thin skin. Your accusing them of resorting to personal abuse is >> much stronger than any of the opinions of you they have expressed. In >> particular, Oz did not suggest you were a bigot. He did say: >> >> "One function of a working democracy is to allow freedom for minorities >> within it, where what they do does not affect others. >> >> Otherwise you end up with a bigoted tyranny." >> >> and >> >> "Ah, I see, no minorities allowed, bigots rule. >> >> I guess that would suit you." >> >> Neither of those quotes suggests you are a bigot. The second quote does >> suggest you might be happy to have bigots ruling, but that is a long way >> from suggesting you yourself are a bigot. >> >> I can find nothing from Mary or Christine suggesting you are a fool or a >> liar. >> >> I am beginning to form the impression that you either do not read posts >> properly or you invent to provide a response suitable for your needs. >> >> Sorry about that, I would be delighted to be proved wrong. >> >> -- >> Old Codger > >I have *never* posted personal abuse to anyone. Sometimes I disagree with >what they say, but it's not abuse to not agree, surely. Just another >opinion. >Now, I'd definitely have an excuse to abuse Rooney, as he once suggested >that I was a prostitute, (and I'll never forgive him for that) which is >ridiculous. I've refrained from abusing him, but claim the right to >disagree with his views. >Paul seems to have too much to say when he is drunk. Without thinking of >the offense he causes.
The cad. Hic.
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 | | From: | Steve Terry | | Subject: | Re: Hunting is banned! | | Date: | Sat, 27 Nov 2004 22:24:11 +0000 |
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 | On Sat, 27 Nov 2004 21:54:51 -0000, "Christina Websell" wrote:
> >"Old Codger" wrote in message >news:41a8e72f$0$529$ed2619ec@ptn-nntp-reader03.plus.net... >> Rooney wrote: >>> On Sat, 27 Nov 2004 17:13:14 -0000, "Old Codger" >>> wrote: >>> >>>> Rooney wrote: >>>>> On Thu, 25 Nov 2004 11:37:18 -0000, "BAC" >>>>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> "Rooney" wrote in message >>>>>> news:m3gbq05p9cilm7b0nsu82d0v3j6i5lnp2h@4ax.com... >>>>>>> On Thu, 25 Nov 2004 10:37:41 -0000, "BAC" >>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> LOL >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Good to see some sanity here. Mary thinks I'm a fool because she >>>>>>> hasn't understood the shooting legislation and won't accept >>>>>>> advice; Christine thinks I'm a liar because I own horses; and Oz >>>>>>> thinks I'm a bigot because I had to remind him what democracy >>>>>>> means. >>>>>>> Strange old world. >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> It is that. But I'm sure they'd each dispute your analysis of their >>>>>> criticisms :-) >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> I doubt it. They just descend to personal abuse when they come >>>>> across opinions they don't like, or arguments they can't refute. >>>>> They are symptomatic of what's wrong with some of these ngs. >>>> >>>> Are you sure you have your facts correct? I have *never* noticed >>>> any of the three you specifically mentioned descending to personal >>>> abuse. >>> >>> >>> Then you should read more widely or more closely. Start with this >>> thread! >> >> I have re-read all posts by the three in this thread and if you consider >> any of those posts to be "personal abuse" you are very sensitive and have >> a very thin skin. Your accusing them of resorting to personal abuse is >> much stronger than any of the opinions of you they have expressed. In >> particular, Oz did not suggest you were a bigot. He did say: >> >> "One function of a working democracy is to allow freedom for minorities >> within it, where what they do does not affect others. >> >> Otherwise you end up with a bigoted tyranny." >> >> and >> >> "Ah, I see, no minorities allowed, bigots rule. >> >> I guess that would suit you." >> >> Neither of those quotes suggests you are a bigot. The second quote does >> suggest you might be happy to have bigots ruling, but that is a long way >> from suggesting you yourself are a bigot. >> >> I can find nothing from Mary or Christine suggesting you are a fool or a >> liar. >> >> I am beginning to form the impression that you either do not read posts >> properly or you invent to provide a response suitable for your needs. >> >> Sorry about that, I would be delighted to be proved wrong. >> >> -- >> Old Codger > >I have *never* posted personal abuse to anyone. Sometimes I disagree with >what they say, but it's not abuse to not agree, surely. Just another >opinion.
Lying old trout you're a well known troll.
>Now, I'd definitely have an excuse to abuse Rooney, as he once suggested >that I was a prostitute, (and I'll never forgive him for that) which is >ridiculous. I've refrained from abusing him, but claim the right to >disagree with his views. >Paul seems to have too much to say when he is drunk.
He must have been rotten to think you were worth anything, even a hooker. --
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 | | From: | Rooney | | Subject: | Re: Hunting is banned! | | Date: | Sat, 27 Nov 2004 20:52:02 +0000 |
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 | On Sat, 27 Nov 2004 20:44:25 -0000, "Old Codger" wrote:
> >Neither of those quotes suggests you are a bigot. The second quote does >suggest you might be happy to have bigots ruling, but that is a long way >from suggesting you yourself are a bigot.
Not imo. > >I can find nothing from Mary or Christine suggesting you are a fool or a >liar.
See below. > >I am beginning to form the impression that you either do not read posts >properly or you invent to provide a response suitable for your needs. > >Sorry about that, I would be delighted to be proved wrong.
Oz: Ah, I see, no minorities allowed, bigots rule. I guess that would suit you.
Mary: Not really offensive, just silly and worth bothering with. It discredits everything he does say.
Christine: Just like you said once you had horses, and needed a speech-to-text reader. Yeah.
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 | | From: | Old Codger | | Subject: | Re: Hunting is banned! | | Date: | Sat, 27 Nov 2004 23:10:00 -0000 |
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 | Rooney wrote: > On Sat, 27 Nov 2004 20:44:25 -0000, "Old Codger" > wrote: > > >> >> Neither of those quotes suggests you are a bigot. The second quote >> does suggest you might be happy to have bigots ruling, but that is a >> long way from suggesting you yourself are a bigot. > > Not imo. >> >> I can find nothing from Mary or Christine suggesting you are a fool >> or a liar. > > See below. >> >> I am beginning to form the impression that you either do not read >> posts properly or you invent to provide a response suitable for your >> needs. >> >> Sorry about that, I would be delighted to be proved wrong. > > > Oz: > Ah, I see, no minorities allowed, bigots rule. > I guess that would suit you. > > Mary: > Not really offensive, just silly and worth bothering with. It > discredits > everything he does say. > > > Christine: > Just like you said once you had horses, and needed > a speech-to-text reader. Yeah. > > ______________________________________ > > > I'm not in the least thin-skinned - just stating facts.
I was going to respond to all three of your posts that respond to me but having read the personal abuse you have posted below regarding Christine I have come to the conclusion that you are not worth the effort.
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 | | From: | Rooney | | Subject: | Re: Hunting is banned! | | Date: | Sun, 28 Nov 2004 03:33:54 +0000 |
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 | On Sat, 27 Nov 2004 23:10:00 -0000, "Old Codger" wrote:
>I was going to respond to all three of your posts that respond to me but >having read the personal abuse you have posted below regarding Christine I >have come to the conclusion that you are not worth the effort.
What personal abuse? Where?
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 | | From: | Old Codger | | Subject: | Re: Hunting is banned! | | Date: | Sun, 28 Nov 2004 17:26:19 -0000 |
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 | Rooney wrote: > On Sat, 27 Nov 2004 23:10:00 -0000, "Old Codger" > wrote: > >> I was going to respond to all three of your posts that respond to me >> but having read the personal abuse you have posted below regarding >> Christine I have come to the conclusion that you are not worth the >> effort. > > > What personal abuse? Where?
"You, madam, are a liar." and "Utterly deranged."
Plonk
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 | | From: | Rooney | | Subject: | Re: Hunting is banned! | | Date: | Sun, 28 Nov 2004 17:44:59 +0000 |
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 | On Sun, 28 Nov 2004 17:26:19 -0000, "Old Codger" wrote:
>Rooney wrote: >> On Sat, 27 Nov 2004 23:10:00 -0000, "Old Codger" >> wrote: >> >>> I was going to respond to all three of your posts that respond to me >>> but having read the personal abuse you have posted below regarding >>> Christine I have come to the conclusion that you are not worth the >>> effort. >> >> >> What personal abuse? Where? > >"You, madam, are a liar." and "Utterly deranged." > >Plonk
That's not abuse - it's just a statement of fact. Plank.
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 | | From: | Chas Kader | | Subject: | Re: Hunting is banned! | | Date: | Sat, 25 Dec 2004 01:32:35 +0000 (UTC) |
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 | "Old Codger" succumbed to the irresistable force of peer pressure and finally wrote: >Rooney wrote: >> On Sat, 27 Nov 2004 23:10:00 -0000, "Old Codger" >> wrote: >> >>> I was going to respond to all three of your posts that respond to me >>> but having read the personal abuse you have posted below regarding >>> Christine I have come to the conclusion that you are not worth the >>> effort. >> >> >> What personal abuse? Where? > >"You, madam, are a liar." and "Utterly deranged." > >Plonk
Plonk
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 | | From: | Phil Kyle | | Subject: | Re: Hunting is banned! | | Date: | Sun, 28 Nov 2004 22:57:36 +0000 |
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 | On Sun, 28 Nov 2004 17:26:19 -0000, "Old Codger" wrote:
>Rooney wrote: >> On Sat, 27 Nov 2004 23:10:00 -0000, "Old Codger" >> wrote: >> >>> I was going to respond to all three of your posts that respond to me >>> but having read the personal abuse you have posted below regarding >>> Christine I have come to the conclusion that you are not worth the >>> effort. >> >> >> What personal abuse? Where? > >"You, madam, are a liar." and "Utterly deranged." > >Plonk
Since when was telling the truth a plonkable offense?
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 | | From: | Dorian | | Subject: | Re: Hunting is banned! | | Date: | Sun, 28 Nov 2004 18:02:36 GMT |
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 | On Sun, 28 Nov 2004 17:26:19 -0000, "Old Codger" wrote:
>Rooney wrote: >> On Sat, 27 Nov 2004 23:10:00 -0000, "Old Codger" >> wrote: >> >>> I was going to respond to all three of your posts that respond to me >>> but having read the personal abuse you have posted below regarding >>> Christine I have come to the conclusion that you are not worth the >>> effort. >> >> >> What personal abuse? Where? > >"You, madam, are a liar." and "Utterly deranged." > >Plonk
Grow up trouble.
Plink.
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 | | From: | Phil Kyle | | Subject: | Re: Hunting is banned! | | Date: | Sun, 28 Nov 2004 22:58:06 +0000 |
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 | On Sun, 28 Nov 2004 18:02:36 GMT, dorafasalo@hotmail.com (Dorian) wrote:
>On Sun, 28 Nov 2004 17:26:19 -0000, "Old Codger" > wrote: > >>Rooney wrote: >>> On Sat, 27 Nov 2004 23:10:00 -0000, "Old Codger" >>> wrote: >>> >>>> I was going to respond to all three of your posts that respond to me >>>> but having read the personal abuse you have posted below regarding >>>> Christine I have come to the conclusion that you are not worth the >>>> effort. >>> >>> >>> What personal abuse? Where? >> >>"You, madam, are a liar." and "Utterly deranged." >> >>Plonk > >Grow up trouble.
Pardon?
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 | | From: | Dorian | | Subject: | Re: Hunting is banned! | | Date: | Mon, 29 Nov 2004 13:07:54 GMT |
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 | On Sun, 28 Nov 2004 22:58:06 +0000, Phil Kyle wrote:
>On Sun, 28 Nov 2004 18:02:36 GMT, dorafasalo@hotmail.com (Dorian) >wrote: > >>On Sun, 28 Nov 2004 17:26:19 -0000, "Old Codger" >> wrote: >> >>>Rooney wrote: >>>> On Sat, 27 Nov 2004 23:10:00 -0000, "Old Codger" >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>>> I was going to respond to all three of your posts that respond to me >>>>> but having read the personal abuse you have posted below regarding >>>>> Christine I have come to the conclusion that you are not worth the >>>>> effort. >>>> >>>> >>>> What personal abuse? Where? >>> >>>"You, madam, are a liar." and "Utterly deranged." >>> >>>Plonk >> >>Grow up trouble. > >Pardon?
He's a drip/
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 | | From: | Steve Terry | | Subject: | Re: Hunting is banned! | | Date: | Sat, 27 Nov 2004 23:38:53 +0000 |
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 | On Sat, 27 Nov 2004 23:10:00 -0000, "Old Codger" wrote:
>Rooney wrote: >> On Sat, 27 Nov 2004 20:44:25 -0000, "Old Codger" >> wrote: >> >> >>> >>> Neither of those quotes suggests you are a bigot. The second quote >>> does suggest you might be happy to have bigots ruling, but that is a >>> long way from suggesting you yourself are a bigot. >> >> Not imo. >>> >>> I can find nothing from Mary or Christine suggesting you are a fool >>> or a liar. >> >> See below. >>> >>> I am beginning to form the impression that you either do not read >>> posts properly or you invent to provide a response suitable for your >>> needs. >>> >>> Sorry about that, I would be delighted to be proved wrong. >> >> >> Oz: >> Ah, I see, no minorities allowed, bigots rule. >> I guess that would suit you. >> >> Mary: >> Not really offensive, just silly and worth bothering with. It >> discredits >> everything he does say. >> >> >> Christine: >> Just like you said once you had horses, and needed >> a speech-to-text reader. Yeah. >> >> ______________________________________ >> >> >> I'm not in the least thin-skinned - just stating facts. > >I was going to respond to all three of your posts that respond to me but >having read the personal abuse you have posted below regarding Christine I >have come to the conclusion that you are not worth the effort.
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 | | From: | Phil Kyle | | Subject: | Re: Hunting is banned! | | Date: | Sun, 28 Nov 2004 22:57:05 +0000 |
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 | On Sat, 27 Nov 2004 23:10:00 -0000, "Old Codger" wrote:
>Rooney wrote: >> On Sat, 27 Nov 2004 20:44:25 -0000, "Old Codger" >> wrote: >> >> >>> >>> Neither of those quotes suggests you are a bigot. The second quote >>> does suggest you might be happy to have bigots ruling, but that is a >>> long way from suggesting you yourself are a bigot. >> >> Not imo. >>> >>> I can find nothing from Mary or Christine suggesting you are a fool >>> or a liar. >> >> See below. >>> >>> I am beginning to form the impression that you either do not read >>> posts properly or you invent to provide a response suitable for your >>> needs. >>> >>> Sorry about that, I would be delighted to be proved wrong. >> >> >> Oz: >> Ah, I see, no minorities allowed, bigots rule. >> I guess that would suit you. >> >> Mary: >> Not really offensive, just silly and worth bothering with. It >> discredits >> everything he does say. >> >> >> Christine: >> Just like you said once you had horses, and needed >> a speech-to-text reader. Yeah. >> >> ______________________________________ >> >> >> I'm not in the least thin-skinned - just stating facts. > >I was going to respond to all three of your posts that respond to me but >having read the personal abuse you have posted below regarding Christine I >have come to the conclusion that you are not worth the effort.
Fuck off then.
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