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Re: Only GOD can create intelligence !!!!

Re: Only GOD can create intelligence !!!!  
BlackWater
From:BlackWater
Subject:Re: Only GOD can create intelligence !!!!
Date:Tue, 11 Jan 2005 21:30:49 GMT
On 8 Jan 2005 07:32:54 -0800, "alanbe" wrote:

>Red Golpe wrote:
>> "Bruno Beam" dice:
>>
>> > If humans try to create artificial intelligence, it's BLASPHEMY and
>> > we'll feel the WRATH of god very soon!
>>
>> Since he did create intelligence and we still haven't, he'll feel the
>NG's
>> wrath very soon.
>>
>> Red Golpe
>>
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>
>Let's say we do manage to create artificial intelligence --ala Asimov's
>Positronic machines.
>
>What will be our expectations for these machines?
>Obviously, we don't need them to do our work -- there will always be
>poor immigrants willing to die to do the dirty work.

Aw ... we can finally just let the poor immigrants
go jobless and starve .... :-)

>What will we expect from our machines in addition to the work they do
>for us?

Empathy.

>Must they have our sense of basic morality builtin? The 3 laws are a
>start.

I don't think you CAN do "the Laws" in anything complex
and adaptable enough to assume the role of a general-
purpose human worker. They'll be able to rationalize
their way around "the Laws" as easily as we rationalize
speeding in residential zones and leaving stuff off of
our tax returns. Capable AS a human = capable of every
human quirk (and probably some new ones too).

>Must we program within them a positive regard for mankind ? Must they
>"love us" so to speak or would we rather that they come to this
>position on their own. Rationally and logically come to have high
>regard for the men who created them?

They had BETTER love us ... or we're in deep doodie.

But again, I don't think this can be programmed-in to
something of human-like mental capability. They'll have
to LEARN to love us - and we will have to EARN that love.

In order to interact smoothly with humans, electronic
intelligences will have to be a lot LIKE humans in
terms of emotional responses both gross and subtle.
E-motions mean the possibility of e-motional problems.
Indeed, note how extremely delicate emotional control
and 'sanity' are in humans ... just the slightest
flaw in brain metabolism or structure and you can
get raving loonies or icy-cold psychopaths. 'Sane'
is like balancing on a tightrope. If our EIs are
even *slightly* out of balance ...

>Maybe we won't even take the chance that our creation might reject us-
>the 3 laws.

Sure we will.

We will make electronic intelligence because :
(a) We can and
(b) Because we're a lazy species and the promise of
un-unionized legal 'slave' labor will hold a
tremendous appeal and
(c) Because we're a lonely species and even an
electronic friend beats none at all.

>If we create our AI machines with free will, how will we deal with
>those who choose to break our laws and moral codes?

Same as we do with our own - to the scrapyard in
severe cases, 're-education' in lesser cases. Of
course EIs may (or may not) be totally reprogrammable.
If so, why waste a good shell ? We'd wipe 'em clean
and install a new starter program. Hey, they used
to do that in the 1950s to 'troubled' (read 'socially
inconvenient') kids ... using repeated electroshock
until they were 'erased'.

>If we create our AI machines with out free will, how will they differ
>really from walking IPods?

They won't. I don't think they'd qualify as 'intelligences'
at all. Just industrial robots. The depth, breadth and
adaptability needed to truely intermix in human affairs
requires 'free will'.

>I think about this when I wonder why the world is the way it is. God
>created us to love, hate, or ignore him - and other humans.=20

There are no gawds.

And if there were, all of the major religions seem to
be AGAINST thinking, reason and involvement ... in favor
of vegging-out in blissful mindless "belief".
   

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