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 | | From: | surreal_ravi | | Subject: | Vande Bharat Matram | | Date: | 17 Jan 2005 09:43:35 -0800 |
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HindustanTimes.com/Agencies
New Delhi, January 17, 2005|20:22 IST
The entire hierarchy of Western Railway came in for severe criticism
for pre-judging the issue by describing the fire incident as a
"miscreant activity without conducting even a preliminary inquiry".
The Committee noted that neither the then Railway Minister nor members
of the Board visited the site of the accident or the injured
passengers.
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Vande Bharat Matram !!! Jai Hind !!!
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| | From: | Meme Slayer | | Subject: | Re: Vande Bharat Matram | | Date: | 17 Jan 2005 10:48:41 -0800 |
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surreal_ravi wrote:
> HindustanTimes.com/Agencies
>
> New Delhi, January 17, 2005|20:22 IST
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> The entire hierarchy of Western Railway came in for severe criticism
> for pre-judging the issue by describing the fire incident as a
> "miscreant activity without conducting even a preliminary inquiry".
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> The Committee noted that neither the then Railway Minister nor
members
> of the Board visited the site of the accident or the injured
> passengers.
>
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> Vande Bharat Matram !!! Jai Hind !!
Fire incident? And thousand strong islamic mob with arms was there to
douse the fire? Fire broke out only when train was on godhra station?
That too, just after allegedly teasing a minority girl? Nanavati-shah
commission is doing research for two years while this commission did it
so soon!
This report was prepared the very first day UPA came to power.
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| | From: | syed | | Subject: | Re: Vande Bharat Matram | | Date: | Mon, 17 Jan 2005 21:33:39 -0500 |
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| On 17 Jan 2005 10:48:41 -0800, "Meme Slayer"
wrote:
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>surreal_ravi wrote:
>> HindustanTimes.com/Agencies
>>
>> New Delhi, January 17, 2005|20:22 IST
>>
>>
>> The entire hierarchy of Western Railway came in for severe criticism
>> for pre-judging the issue by describing the fire incident as a
>> "miscreant activity without conducting even a preliminary inquiry".
>>
>> The Committee noted that neither the then Railway Minister nor
>members
>> of the Board visited the site of the accident or the injured
>> passengers.
>>
>> ------------------------------------------
>> Vande Bharat Matram !!! Jai Hind !!
>
>Fire incident? And thousand strong islamic mob with arms was there to
>douse the fire?
Thousands of these poor vendors lived next to the track. Even a year
back, a Hindu director of an Indian forensic lab has published his
report that fire initiated from inside.
> Fire broke out only when train was on godhra station?
Your facts are totally wrong. Fire started when train wheeled out from
Godhra station and then stopped at outer signals when Muslim vendors
pulled the chain to retrieve their kidnapped girl by these disgusting
kaar sevaks.
>That too, just after allegedly teasing a minority girl?
Not teasing alone but kidnapping too.
>Nanavati-shah
>commission is doing research for two years while this commission did it
>so soon!
Nanavati- shah commission may have made their job easier & faster.
>This report was prepared the very first day UPA came to power.
But published only after almost a year or so???? doesn’t make much
sense.
Accept it India is biased. still has long way to become a real
secular and democratic nation. Just can't become by saying it.
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| | From: | Torpedo | | Subject: | Re: Vande Bharat Matram | | Date: | Tue, 18 Jan 2005 08:37:48 +1100 |
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| Any interim report on this?
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/south_asia/3170970.stm
Pakistan's militant Islamic groups
The militant Islamic groups banned in Pakistan include several groups which
have been often blamed for a stream of sectarian violence in the country.
The Islamic Sunni Sipah-e-Sahaba and the Shia Tehrik-e-Jafria have been
accused of attacking followers of the rival sects.
The Lashkar-e-Jhangvi is another Sunni group accused of violence.
President Pervez Musharraf says about 400 people were killed in the country
in sectarian violence last year.
Sipah-e-Sahaba
Sipah-e-Sahaba - or the Army of Prophet Mohammad's companions - is a radical
group from the majority Sunni sect of Islam.
The group was founded by a Sunni cleric - Maulana Haq Nawaz Jhangvi - in the
early 1980s to block the influence of the Iranian Shia revolution in
Pakistan.
The next two decades saw an explosion of sectarian violence between Shia and
Sunni extremist groups and the death of hundreds of people.
Sipah-e-Sahaba wants Pakistan to be officially declared a Sunni Muslim
state.
It has strongholds in southern districts of the populous central province of
Punjab and the volatile port city of Karachi.
Maulana Jhangvi was assassinated in a suspected sectarian attack in 1990.
The killing led to the formation of a breakaway and more radical Jhangvi
group which was banned last year.
Maulana Azam Tariq, who was assassinated on 6 October 2003, then took
charge.
Maulana Tariq had been detained by the authorities a year earlier at the
height of violent protests by hardline Islamic groups in support of
Afghanistan's Taleban regime.
Tehrik-e-Jafria
Tehrik-e-Jafria - or the Movement of Followers of Shia - was founded in
1979.
Its creation coincided with the enforcement of controversial Islamic laws by
the then military ruler of Pakistan, General Mohammad Zia-ul-Haq.
The Islamic revolution in predominantly Shia Iran around the same time gave
an added boost to the organisation.
Its leader, Allama Arif Hussain al-Hussaini, was a student of the leader of
Iran's Islamic Revolution, Ayatollah Khomeini.
Lashkar-e-Jhangvi
The Lashkar-e-Jhangvi was formed in 1996 by a faction that broke away from
the Sipah-e-Sahaba after the assassination of Maulana Jhangvi.
They accused the parent group of deviating from his ideals.
Said to be even more radical than the Sipah-e-Sahaba, they were banned in
2002 and designated as a terrorist group by the US State Department in
January 2003.
The Lashkar-e-Jhangvi said it carried out one of the worst sectarian attacks
in recent years, when more than 50 people were gunned down in Quetta in July
2003 when they were praying in front of a Shia mosque.
The US believes it has close ties with Osama Bin Laden's al-Qaeda network.
They are also blamed for involvement in the murder of US journalist Daniel
Pearl in Karachi in 2002.
Tanzeem-e-Nifaz
Another group banned is the Tanzeem-e-Nifaz-e-Shariat-e-Mohammadi.
This radical Sunni Muslim group was founded by Maulana Sufi Mohammad.
He was a follower of Saudi Arabia's Wahhabi school of thought.
The group has been engaged in violent agitation for the enforcement of
Islamic laws in its stronghold of Malakhand in north-western Pakistan.
In the late 1980s, then Prime Minister Benazir Bhutto ordered paramilitary
forces to crush a revolt by the group.
In October last year, Sufi Mohammad crossed into Afghanistan with thousands
of his followers to help the Taleban fight US-led forces.
But he returned soon after the collapse of the Taleban.
He has since been under detention.
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>
> HindustanTimes.com/Agencies
>
> New Delhi, January 17, 2005|20:22 IST
>
>
> The entire hierarchy of Western Railway came in for severe criticism
> for pre-judging the issue by describing the fire incident as a
> "miscreant activity without conducting even a preliminary inquiry".
>
> The Committee noted that neither the then Railway Minister nor members
> of the Board visited the site of the accident or the injured
> passengers.
>
> ------------------------------------------
> Vande Bharat Matram !!! Jai Hind !!!
>
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| | From: | koolfire_or | | Subject: | Re: Vande Bharat Matram | | Date: | 17 Jan 2005 10:18:18 -0800 |
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surreal_ravi wrote:
> HindustanTimes.com/Agencies
>
> New Delhi, January 17, 2005|20:22 IST
>
>
> The entire hierarchy of Western Railway came in for severe criticism
> for pre-judging the issue by describing the fire incident as a
> "miscreant activity without conducting even a preliminary inquiry".
>
> The Committee noted that neither the then Railway Minister nor
members
> of the Board visited the site of the accident or the injured
> passengers.
>
> ------------------------------------------
> Vande Bharat Matram !!! Jai Hind !!!
godhra is dead and buried,no use crying over spilt milk,or trying to
draw milage on a dead issue...three cheers to the indian justice
system,it did its task,even though its an interim report,by the
railways,the final report is going to be no diffrent.....no friggin
country in asia,is so out spoken,and makes a public announcement on
sensitive issues,democracy prevails....muslims or hindus,indians
died,case closed....guilty indians will be punished.
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