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 | | From: | Joe Rosenburg | | Subject: | Did 6 Million Die - Or HOLOHOAX to Extort Money? | | Date: | Sat, 15 Jan 2005 10:11:07 -0700 |
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NAZIS, including the notorious KASTNER case, proving the escape of ZHID
prominente, one MUST now question the alleged 6 million HOLOHOAX figure!!
From: Ernst Zundholz
Newsgroups:soc.culture.europe,soc.culture.german,alt.politics.europe,soc.culture.swiss,soc.culture.austria,soc.culture.new-zealand,soc.culture.palestine
Subject: Did six million really die - Or, HOLOHOAX to Extort Money?
With more and more evidence proving the ZHID COLLABORATION WITH THE
NAZIS, the 6 million HOLOHOAX figure is now highly suspect!!
After all, now that there are an additional 51 cases documented of
ZHID COLLABORATION WITH NAZIS, besides notorious KASTNER case,
who can believe the holohoax figures any more?
On Tue, 30 Nov 2004 10:20:10 -0700, Riain Y.Blankski
wrote:
>On Mon, 29 Nov 2004 09:31:51 +0100, Helmut Wabnig <**************>
>wrote:
>>On 28 Nov 2004 11:04:09 -0800, heinrichhimmelfarb@xmail.net
>>(HeinrichHimmelfarb) wrote:
>>>............
>>>issue has editorials by other emigrants children who say
>>>they were equally surprised when they discovered their
>>>Jewish origin.
>>>........
>>Guess, how many Austrians and Germans were equally surprised
>>when they discoverd their Jewish origin,
>>and nobody would help them to get "aryanized".
>>They ended in a death camp, because grandmother
>>used to work as a janitor in a synagogue.
>>w.
>Kenneth McVay,SOBC, the well-known fag in Canada,
>Fag McVay of Vancouver, convicted of child molesting
>and car theft in California and Oregon, and still
>unemployed gas pump boy, mastermind of the
>Canadian branch of NAMBLA, wants all to know
>about all his fellow criminals and perverts.
>Here is the latest.......
>From: KenMcVaySOBC
>Subject: Comments About - Did 6 Million Really Die?
>Newsgroups: soc.culture.europe,sci.skeptic
>Did Six Million Really Die?
>---------------------------------------------------------------
>COMMENTS ABOUT
>DID SIX MILLION REALLY DIE?
>Dr. Kuang Fann, Professor of Philosophy at York University
>of Canada, formerly China: "The whole pamphlet . . .
>obviously should be classified as a political opinion . . ."
>Ditlieb Felderer, Historical Researcher, Writer, Sweden:
>". . . the booklet has proven to be more true as the years
>have gone by, and it is exterminationists who are coming
>now to start arguing like Harwood did when the booklet was
>first published, so the exterminationists are
>moving . . . toward the booklet more and more."
>Dr. Robert Faurisson, Expert of Ancient Texts and Documents,
>Lyon University: "The thesis of the book is that it's not
>true that six million Jews died, and it is not true that
>there was an extermination plan, and it is not true that
>there were gas chambers.
>What I find right is, first, the title. The title is good.
>Did Six Million Really Die?" That's really the problem . . .
>This man, Richard Harwood, brought plenty of information
>for the layman in '74. He said in '74 that there were no
>order(s) from Hitler to exterminate the Jews.
>Three years after, when David Irving said it, it was an
>uproar, so it was really new and true. We know it now in
>1988 . . . this . . . was so important that when it was
>published in France, the man who distributed (it was)
>murdered . . . Francoise Duprat. We don't know who exactly
>did that, but the interesting point is, first, that it
>has been done by people very clever in those kind of bomb
>handling, and what was published in the journal Le Monde
>after was interesting. This murder was revindicated by a
>so-called "Memory of Auschwitz" organization. It was
>justified by a man called Patrick Chairoff - saying
>that Francoise Duprat, in distributing this kind of
>pamphlet, had taken a responsibility which kills."
>David Irving, British Historian, author of over 30 books
>on WW II and its aftermath: ". . . I read it with great
>interest and I must say that I was surprised by the quality
>of the arguments that it represented. It has obvious flaws.
>It uses sources that I personally would not use. In fact,
>the entire body of sources is different. This is based
>entirely on secondary literature, books by other people,
>including some experts, whereas I use no books. I use
>just the archives. But independently, the author of this
>came to conclusions and asked questions of a logical
>nature which I had arrived at by an entirely different
>route, so to speak.
> . And if I was to ask what is the value of a brochure
>like this, I think it is that it provokes people to ask
>questions, rather as my book on Hitler's War provoked
>the historians. . . This is the kind of value which I
>found this brochure to have. It was asking proper
>questions on the basis of an entirely different set of
>sources."
>Mark Weber, American Historian, Author: "I believe that
>the thesis of the booklet is accurate. . . that there
>was no German policy or program to exterminate the Jews
>during the Second World War. . . The booklet is a
>journalistic or a polemic account that is designed to
>convince people, and it does not purport to be a work
>that can be held up to the same standards of rigid
>scrutiny that a scholarly work and a detailed work
>by someone who is a historian normally would be. .
>its main value lies in encouraging further discussion
>and thought and debate on the subject it raises."
>Colin Wilson, well known British author: ". . . I
>received in the post a pamphlet. . . entitled
>Did Six Million Really Die? I must admit that it
>has left me thoroughly bewildered. What Harwood says,
>briefly, is that Hitler had no reason to murder Jews
>when he needed them for forced labor. . . it is worth
>asking the question: Did the Nazis really exterminate
>six million Jews? Or is this another sign of the emotional
>historical distortion that makes nearly all the books on
>Hitler so far almost worthless?. . . Is there, then, any
>reason why we should be afraid to dig down until we get
>at the truth?"
>WHAT'S WRONG WITH DID SIX MILLION REALLY DIE?
>After 10 years of wrangling, what follows is the essence
>of what was found wrong with the pamphlet by the prosecution
>witnesses. In italics are the primary parts of the pamphlet
>disputed by the prosecution followed by evidence given by
>expert witnesses on both sides.
>1. By 1939, the great majority of German Jews had emigrated,
>all of them with a sizeable proportion of their assets.
>Never at any time had the Nazi leadership even contemplated
>a policy of genocide towards them. . .
>Had Hitler cherished any intention of exterminating the Jews,
>it is inconceivable that he would have allowed more than
>800,000 to leave Reich territory with the bulk of their wealth . . .
>(p. 5,6)
>Prosecution historian Christopher Browning's opinion
>was that slightly over half of German Jews emigrated
>by 1939. Browning testified that the figure 800,000
>was an exaggeration; by 1941, the total of Jews who
>had left Germany, Austria and the Protectorates was
>530,000. Because of measures taken against them, it
>was false to say they left with a "sizeable proportion"
>of their assets. Browning admitted under
>cross-examination, however, that he was not a
>demographer nor a statistition and that any population
>statistics concerning Jews could only be estimates. He
>also admitted that he could not give a precise
>percentage or even proportion of their assets Jews left
>with. He only knew that considerable efforts were
>made to prevent property getting out.
>2. The founder of political Zionism in the 19th century,
>Theodore Herzl, in his work The Jewish State, had originally
>conceived of Madagascar as a national homeland for the Jews,
>and this possibility was seriously studied by the Nazis. It
>had been a main plank of the National Socialist party platform
>before 1933 and was published by the party in pamphlet
>form. (p.5)
>Browning testified it was not a plank of the Nazi Party
>platform before 1933 that the Jews go to Madagascar
>as a national homeland. The first time a Nazi leader
>mentioned Madagascar was 1938. The first time there
>was a plan for madagascar was 1940.
>3. The fall of France in 1940 enabled the German Government
>to open serious negotiations with the French for the transfer
>of European Jews to Madagascar. A memorandum of August, 1942
>from Luther, Secretary-of-State in the German Foreign Office,
>reveals that he had conducted these negotiations between July
>and December 1940, when they were terminated by the French. (p.7)
>Browning testified that there were no such negotiations
>with the French. The Madagascar Plan failed because
>of continuing British control of the high seas.
>4. Reitlinger and Poliakov both make the entirely unfounded
>supposition that because the Madagascar Plan had been shelved,
>the Germans must necessarily have been thinking of "extermination".
>Only a month later, however, on March 7th, 1942, Goebbels wrote a
>memorandum in favour of the Madagascar Plan as a "final solution"
>of the Jewish question (Manvell and Frankl, Dr. Goebbels, London,
>1960,p. 165). In the meantime he approved of the Jews being
>"concentrated in the East". Later Goebbels memoranda also stress
>deportation to the East (i.e. the Government-General of Poland)
>and lay emphasis on the need for compulsory labor there; once
>the policy of evacuation to the East had been inaugurated, the
>use of Jewish labor became a fundamental part of the operation. (p.7)
>Browning said that Goebbels did not write a
>"memorandum", he wrote a "diary entry." Goebbels
>did not lay emphasis on the need for compulsory labor
>but said exactly the opposite; for example, on March
>27, 1942, he wrote that 60% of the Jews will have to
>be liquidated and 40% used for forced labor. Browning
>admitted he had never checked the authenticity of the
>original Goebbels diaries but had accepted the
>commercial printed version. Historian Weber testified
>there was great doubt about the authenticity of the
>entire Goebbels diaries because they were typewritten.
>There was therefore no way to verify their authenticity.
>The U.S. Government itself indicated that it would take
>no responsibility for the accuracy of the diaries: the
>original clothbound edition contained a U.S.
>Government statement that it "neither warrants nor
>disclaims the authenticity of the manuscript". Browning
>relied on other documents such as the Seraphim report
>to show that the Germans did not put priority on using
>Jews for labor. Historian Weber disagreed with this
>opinion. In his view, the Jews were a valuable source
>of labor for the Germans; Himmler himself ordered
>that concentration camp inmates be used as extensively
>as possible in war production.
>5. Statistics relating to Jewish populations are not everywhere
>known in precise detail, approximations for various countries
>differing widely, and it is also unknown exactly how many Jews
>were deported and interned at any one time between the years
>1939-1945. In general, however, what reliable statistics there
>are, especially those relating to emigration, are sufficient to
>show that not a fraction of six million Jews could have been
>exterminated. (p.7)
>Browning testified that contemporary German
>statistical studies showed that there were enough Jews
>in Europe to exterminate 6 million of them. These
>studies were: (a) the Burgdörfer Study (estimated that
>there were about 10.72 million Jews in Europe); (b)
>Madagascar Plan (4 million Jews under German control
>in 1940); (c) Wannsee conference protocol (11 million
>Jews). In Browning's opinion, even the German studies
>done at the time showed in the area of 10 million Jews
>under German control in Europe. Therefore, 6 million
>could have been exterminated. He admitted, again, that
>he was not a demographer or a statistician and that the
>problem of changing borders and the various definitions
>of "Jew" made any conclusions in this area difficult to
>the point that they could only be estimates.
>6. According to Chambers Encyclopaedia the total number of
>Jews living in pre-war Europe was 6,500,000. (p.7)
>Chambers Encyclopedia dealt only with the total
>number of Jews living ont he continent of Europe apart
>from Russia, not the total number living in pre-war
>Europe as stated by the pamphlet.
>7. In addition to the German Jews, 220,000 of the total 280,000
>Austrian Jews had emigrated by September, 1939, while from March
>1939 onwards the Institute for Jewish Emigration in Prague had
>secured the emigration of 260,000 Jews from former Czechoslovakia.
>In all, only 360,000 Jews remained in Germany, Austria and
>Czechoslovakia after September 1939. (p.7,8)
>These numbers did not accord with the German studies
>done at the time, Browning testified. A comparison
>with the Wannsee Conference protocol statistics
>showed that 360,000 Jews had emigrated from
>Germany; 147,000 had emigrated from Austria; 30,000
>had emigrated from the Protectorate. These figures
>were all much lower than Harwood's figures.
>8. In addition to these emigrants, we must also include the
>number of Jews who fled to the Soviet Union after 1939, and
>who were later evacuated beyond reach of the German invaders.
>It will be shown below that the majority of these, about
>1,250,000, were migrants from Poland.
>But apart from Poland, Reitlinger admits that 300,000 other
>European Jews slipped into Soviet territory between 1939 and
>1941. This brings the total of Jewish emigrants to the Soviet
>Union to about 1,550,000. (p.8)
>Browning testified that the reference to Reitlinger was a
>mis-cite; Reitlinger said that 300,000 Polish Jews in
>total fled to the Soviet Union, not "other European
>Jews" as stated by Harwood. The figure of 1,250,000
>given by Harwood was therefore 5 times too high.
>9. The 1931 Jewish population census for Poland put the number
>of Jews at 2,732,600 (Reitlinger, Die Endlösung, p. 36). (p.8)
>Hilberg testified that this was wrong; in fact, the figure
>of 2,732,600 came from a census taken in the 1920s.
>10. When the Jewish populations of Holland (140,000), Belgium
>(40,000), Italy (50,000), Yugoslavia (55,000), Hungary (380,000)
>and Roumania (725,000) are included, the figure does not much
>exceed 3 million. (p.8)
>These statistics were not in accord with the Nazis' own
>statistics, said Browning. For example, the German
>statistics for 1942 listed the Jewish population of
>Hungary at 743,800. German records of the
>deportations from Hungary showed more Jews were
>deported than the number given by Harwood as the
>Jewish population of Hungary.
>11. So far as is known, the first accusation against the
>Germans of the mass murder of Jews in war-time Europe was
>made by the Polish Jew Rafael Lemkin in his book
>Axis Rule in Occupied Europe, published in
>New York in 1943. (p.9)
>The first accusation of mass murder of the Jews was
>made on December 17, 1942 by the Allies in a Joint
>Declaration. Lemkin, as far as Browning knew, never
>used the 6 million figure in his book. Weber pointed
>out this mistake made no difference to the substance of
>the thesis of the pamphlet.
>12. Gerstein's sister was congenitally insane and died by
>euthenasia, which may well suggest a streak of mental
>instability in Gerstein himself. . . Gerstein's fantastic
>exaggerations have done little but discredit the whole
>notion of mass extermination. Indeed, Evangelical Bishop
>Wilhelm Dibelius of Berlin denounced his memoranda as
>"Untrustworthy" (p.9)
>It was not Gerstein's sister, but his sister-in-law, who
>was killed in the euthenasia program. Dibelius in fact
>stated that he was convinced of the trustworthiness of
>Gerstein, the opposite of what Harwood had written.
>However, Hilberg admitted that he would not
>characterize Gerstein as being totally rational and that
>there was no question that he was capable of adding
>imagination to fact. Browning acknowledged there
>were "problems" with Gerstein's testimony; his obvious
>exaggerations resulted because he was "traumatized" by
>his experiences, said Browning.
>13. It should be emphasised straight away that there is
>not a single document in existence which proves that the
>Germans intended to, or carried out, the deliberate murder
>of Jews. (p.10)
>In Browning's opinion, there were such documents,
>including the Hans Frank diary, the Wannsee
>Conference protocol, and the 1943 Posen speech of
>Himmler. Historian Robert Faurisson pointed out that if
>these documents "proved" the existence of a deliberate
>plan to murder the Jews, there would be no debate
>between the "functionalists" and "intentionalists" in the
>Holocaust academic circles. This debate in and of itself
>showed that no proof of a deliberate plan existed.
>Hilberg had testified in the 1985 Zündel trial that there
>were two oral orders from Hitler for the extermination
>of the Jews. He denied that he had changed this view
>in his then forthcoming second edition of his book The
>Destruction of the European Jews, which was to be
>published shortly thereafter. In 1988, Hilberg refused
>to testify at the second Zündel trial, citing in a
>confidential letter to the prosecutor that he had "grave
>doubts" about testifying again; 'the defence,' he wrote,
>'. . . would . . . make every attempt to entrap me by
>pointing to any seeming contradiction, however trivial
>the subject might be, between my earlier testimony and
>an answer that I might give in 1988." Browning
>admitted in his testimony that Hilberg had made a
>"significant" change regarding the role of Hitler in the
>decision-making process between his first edition and
>the second edition, published in 1985. In an article
>entitled "The Revised Hilberg", Browning wrote that in
>his second edition, Hilberg had "systematically excised"
>all references in the text to a Hitler decision or a Hitler
>order for the "Final Solution". In the new edition, wrote
>Browning, "decisions were not made and orders were
>not given".
>14. Attempts to find "veiled allusions" to genocide in
>speeches like that of Himmler's to his S.S.
>Obergruppenführers at Posen in 1943 are
>likewise quite hopeless. (p.11)
>Browning testified that the Posen speech contained
>explicit references to exterminating the Jews. Historian
>David Irving testified, however, that those portions of
>the original manuscript of the Posen speech which dealt
>with "extermination" had been tampered with; they
>were written in a different typescript using different
>carbon paper and were numbered in pencil. Irving also
>pointed out that the Israelis had Himmler's private diary
>but refused to allow any historians to have access to it.
>If Himmler's diary supported the "Holocaust", Irving
>said, the Israelis would be the first to release it.
>15. Most incredible of all, perhaps, was the fact that
>defence lawyers at Nuremberg were not permitted to
>cross-examine prosecution witnesses. (p.12)
>Hilberg testified that defense lawyers were allowed to
>cross-examine witnesses at Nuremberg. Weber testified
>that many affidavits were entered into evidence,
>however, upon which no cross-examination was
>possible.
>16. The Soviet charge that the Action Groups had wantonly
>exterminated a million Jews during their operations has
>been shown subsequently to be a massive falsification.
>In fact, there had never been the slightest statistical
>basis for the figure. (p.14)
>Browning testified that on the basis of the
>Einsatzgruppen reports and the works of other
>historians that at least 1 million Jews were killed
>by the Einsatztruppen. Historian Weber testified,
>however, that in the major work on the Einsatztruppen,
>Die Truppe des Weltanschauungskrieges, the two authors
>calculated that if all the figures in the Einsatztruppen
>reports were added up, there would be a total of 2.2
>million Jewish dead. The authors admitted this was
>impossible and conceded that the Einsatztruppen report
>figures were exaggerated. In Weber's opinion, the
>figure of about 1 million was not believable because it
>was known that the great majority of Jews fled or were
>evacuated from the eastern territories before the
>German invasion in 1941.
>17. Thus between July and October 1942, over three quarters
>of the Warsaw Ghetto's inhabitants were peacefully evacuated
>and transported, supervised by the Jewish police themselves. . .
>A total, however, of 56,065 inhabitants were captured and
>peacefully resettled in the area of the Government-General. (p. 19)
>Browning stated that reports of the Warsaw Ghetto
>clearing indicated it was done brutally and not
>"peacefully" as alleged by Harwood. In Browning's
>opinion, they were not resettled but taken to Treblinka
>and Majdanek and either gassed or shot. Historian
>Mark Weber testified that the record as to what
>happened to these Jews was still unclear. In Weber's
>opinion, Treblinka and Majdanek were simply
>concentration and/or transit camps.
>18. Of course, no Jew would ever be found who claimed to
>have been a member of this gruesome "special detachment",
>so that the whole issue is left conveniently unprovable.
>It is worth repeating that no living, authentic eye-witness
>to these events has ever been produced. (p.20)
>One of Browning's main differences with the pamphlet
>was that it denied the existence of the homcidal gas
>chambers for the purpose of killing Jews. He testified
>Jews had come forward claiming to be members of the
>Sonderkommando, such as Filip Mueller, whose
>accounts he found to be "moving". Browning admitted
>under cross-examination, however, that he had never
>seen a technical plan that purported to be either a gas
>chamber or gas van. He had never enquired about
>cremation processes or how much heat or how long it
>took to cremate a human body. Browning had not
>looked at the aereal photographs taken by the Allies of
>Auschwitz during the war except for one on the wall of
>Yad Vashem. Neither Browning nor Hilberg knew of
>any autopsy report showing that any camp inmate was
>killed by Zyklon B. Hilberg and Browning visited the
>concentration camps only for the purpose of looking at
>memorials or as members of Holocaust Commissions.
>Witnesses Leuchter and Roth gave evidence which
>showed that samples taken from the walls and floor of
>the alleged "gas chambers" at Auschwitz and Birkenau
>showed either no traces or only minute traces of
>cyanide, while the walls of a known fumigation
>chamber at Birkenau which had used Zyklon B had
>over 1000 times as much traceable cyanide. In
>Leuchter's opinion, as an expert in gas chamber
>technology, the alleged homicidal gas chambers at
>Auschwitz, Birkenau and Majdanek were incapable of
>being used as gas chambers for the killing of human
>beings because of their structure, including such factors
>as lack of exhaust systems, stacking and sealants. Ivan
>Lagace, a cremation expert, testified that in modern
>crematories it took a minimum of 1 1/2 hours to
>cremate a human body in one retort; he termed
>"ludicrous" the extermination claim that over 4.400
>bodies were cremated in 46 retorts at Birkenau per
>day. With respect to the veracity of "eyewitness"
>testimony, Weber testified that Yad Vashem had
>admitted that over half of the "survivor" accounts on
>record there were unreliable as many had "let their
>imagination run away with them." Historian Faurisson
>quoted from the Jewish writer Michel de Bouard, who
>admitted in 1986 that "the record is rotten to the core"
>with obstinately repeated "fantasies' and inaccuracies.
>19. Of course, no Jew would ever be found who claimed to
>have been a member of this gruesome "special detachment",
>so that the whole issue is left conveniently unprovable.
>It is worth repeating that no living, authentic eye-witness
>to these events has ever been produced. (p.20)
>Browning believed Eichmann to be the highest central
>figure in the plan to exterminate the Jews who survived
>the war and testified. Eichmann testified that Heydrich
>told him that Hitler had ordered the extermination of
>the Jews of Europe. Browning admitted, however, that
>Eichmann had "more than a little trouble" in sorting out
>events in his mind. In historian Irving's opinion
>Eichmann was on trial and under considerable physical
>and mental coercion; such testimony did not advance
>historical knowledge but polluted it.
>20. . . . only seven years after its initial publication,
>a New York Supreme Court case established that the book
>was a hoax. . . It established that the Jewish novelist
>Meyer Levin had written the dialogue of the "diary" and
>was demanding payment for his work in a
>court action against Otto Frank. (p.21)
>This was not true; in fact Levin had sued for payment
>for writing a play based on the diary itself. Faurisson
>and Irving testified that other proof existed, however,
>that the diary's authenticity was suspect. Expert
>examinations of the original diary by graphologists and
>West German criminal laboratories showed that one
>person had written the diary and part of it was written
>in ball-point pen ink, which only came into use in the
>1950s. Faurisson believed the diary was written by
>Otto Frank, the father of Anne Frank.
>21. As a result, eastern camps in the Russian zone of
>occupation such as Auschwitz and Treblinka gradually
>came to the fore as horrific centres of extermination
>(though no one was permitted to see them), and
>this tendency has lasted to the present day. (p.23)
>Browning testified that it was false to say no one was
>permitted to see the camps in the Soviet zone. He cited
>a New York Times article by journalist W. Lawrence
>of a tour of Majdanek given to journalists by the
>Soviets in 1944. Browning admitted that the article had
>significant errors regarding the numbers of people who
>allegedly died there and how Zyklon B worked.
>Historian Weber testified that Western Allied
>investigators were not allowed to investigate
>concentration camps in the Soviet zone of occupation
>after the war. The visit to Majdanek by newspaper
>reporters was a guided tour by the Soviets for
>propaganda purposes; it was not an investigation by
>any specialized person.
>22. Finally, Professor Rassinier draws attention to an
>important admission by Dr. Kubovy, director of the World
>Centre of Contemporary Jewish Documentation at Tel-Aviv,
>made in La Terre Retrouvée, December 15th, 1960.
>Dr. Kubovy recognised that not a single order for
>extermination exists from Hitler, Himmler, Heydrich
>or Goering (Le Drame des Juifs européen, p. 31, 39).(p.29)
>Browning had never heard of Kubovy or the World
>Centre of Contemporary Jewish Documentation. But
>both Faurisson and Irving knew of Kubovy and Irving
>had cited Kubovy's quote from La Terre Retrouvee in
>his book, Hitler's War.
>23. However, {Rassinier} regards such a figure as a
>maximum limit, and refers to the lower estimate of
>896,892 casualties in a study of the same
>problem by the Jewish statistician Raul Hilberg. (p.29)
>Hilberg testified that he was not a statistician and had
>never given an estimate of 896,892. His own
>calculation in fact was over 5 million. Weber testified
>that Harwood had taken this information from Paul
>Rassinier's boos; the original mistake was therefore
>Rassinier's and not Harwood's.
>24. ... Professor Rassinier concludes . . . that the number
>of Jewish casualties during the Second World War could not
>have exceeded 1,200,000, and he notes that this has finally
>been accepted as valid by the World Centre of Contemporary
>Jewish Documentation at Paris. (p.29)
>Hilberg testified he had never heard of this Centre or
>the figure cited by Harwood.
>25. RICHARD HARWOOD is a writer and specialist in political
>and diplomatic aspects of the Second World War. At present
>he is with the University of London. (p.30)
>Historian Weber testified that the author of the
>pamphlet was a man named Richard Verrall, who had
>used the pseudonym "Richard Harwood". Verrall was a
>graduate of the University of London with High
>Honours; he was a writer and had a specialized interest
>in political and diplomatic aspects of the Second World
>War. Verrall relied upon secondary sources published
>in the 1950s and 1960s in writing the pamphlet, which
>was published in 1974. Most errors made by the author
>were errors originally made by Paul Rassinier, the
>pioneer revisionist historian, whose works Verrall had
>relied upon heavily.
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"All truth passes through three stages.
First, it is ridiculed, second it is violently opposed,
and third, it is accepted as self-evident."
(Arthur Schopenhauer)
"The reason men are silenced is not because they speak falsely,
but because they speak the truth. This is because if men speak
falsehoods, their own words can be used against them; while if
they speak truly, there is nothing which can be used
against them -- except force." -- John Bryant
"To attempt to silence a man is to pay him homage, for it is an
acknowledgement that his arguments are both impossible to answer
and impossible to ignore."
John Bryant
If you believe in the TRUTH and the RIGHT,
then visit www.freedomsite.org
Posted by:
Steven Horn (KCOM)
1836 NW 11th St
Oklahoma City, OK 73106
(405) 524-0576
together with
Boris Dynin = NAMBLA executive &
Henry who like
late night discussions, even from Stormfront,
Christian Identity, Pamyat, Aryan Nations, etc.
I am together with McVay, regional managers for NAMBLA.
We like young children, so that we can train them our way.
CALL late nights to discuss: (408) 773-0984
Email me: boris@movil.com , or even
VISIT me at:
55 Chumasero Drive, Daly City, San Francisco 94132
Ken McVay invites callers,and visitors,to his homouals escorts office:
VISIT at:
#5 - 1601 - Bowen Road, Nanaimo, B.C., Canada, or my home at:
Apt. 3108 - 995 Bowen Road, Nanaimo, B.C., Canada
or call: 1-250-616-9431
As everyone can see McVay takes it as a compliment when he is
called a "confessed child-molester" and the additional material
should give an indication as to the why.
"I am weary of seeing the issue of "child " blown out of
proportion (I've been on and around the Net since 1988, and have
yet to come across anything I'd consider "child ." I've
seen photos of naked children, but then I've got some of those in
my family photo album, and fail to see the harm, or any great
moral danger to our society)." - Nizkor Director Ken McVay
http://www.spectacle.org/695/mcvay.html [Many paedophiles
also have family albums with naked children photos in them.]
Look at Ken McVay's photo and ask yourselves; "Does he not look like
a disheveled unkempt pervert or someone who would molest your child
even if he or she were not naked"?
http://www.protocol.gov.bc.ca/protocol/prgs/obc/1995/1995_KMcVay.jpg
For detailed and documented evidence of McVay's questionable
background and details of convictions, please refer to
Dr.David Michael's detailed expose on McVay. McVay is a
distraught paranoid molester, and is known for claiming
that anyone who refutes his lies must be a grosvenor!!
It is also suspected that McVay fabricates responses using
aliases, just to justify his existence to his ZHID masters.
Since I am a female, I also like to receive many calls, to discuss
NAMBLA,lesbianism, JEW atrocities and similar.
Call me, Shiksa Susan Cohen at: 301-681-9193, especially late nights.
Also,be sure to include me on maillists:
Keith Spencer,5005 Whitemud Road,Edmonton,AB,Canada T6H5L2
I welcome phone calls, late nights:(780)437-1787 or
send lots of emails to: krs2@ualberta.ca, or phone to work:(780)492-0473
For the real TRUTH about ZHIDS, visit the world top-rated website for
JEW-WATCH:
http://www.jewwatch.com
Or, other useful websites include:
ZUNDELSITE - www.zundelsite.org
IHR - www.ihr.org
OSTARA - www.ostara.org
PAMYAT - http://abbc.com/pamyat/index.html
Edgar J.Steele - www.ConspiracyPenPal.com
AL JAZEERA - http://english.aljazeera.net/HomePage
THE HOFFMAN WIRE - Dedicated to Freedom of the Press,
Investigative Reporting and Revisionist History
Subscribe: HoffmanWire-subscribe@topica.com
Or, visit the website for NATIONAL ALLIANCE : http://www.natvan.com
They have lots of information, as well as books and records.
They also are involved in exposing Ken McVay for the crook he is,
and passing on information to the appropriate criminal prosecutors.
As a service to the public, this article is posted worldwide by a
victim of the molester pervert Ken McVay, with the assistance
of a group interested in detailing the depredations of the ZHIDS.
May Ken McVay and his like,rot in gehenna.
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| | From: | Kenneth McVay OBC | | Subject: | Still ashamed of your real name, Grosvenor? | | Date: | Sat, 15 Jan 2005 18:16:53 -0000 |
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| In article <1105809043.6827713aaf252ed092592aea8d6f682c@teranews>,
Joe Rosenburg wrote:
Still afraid to use your real name, Grosvenor?
Can't say I blame you; perhaps you should change it again,
perhaps to "Pferdendroppings" or "Schweinscheiße."
http://www.vex.net/~nizkor/hweb/people/g/grosvenor-william
http://groups.google.ca/groups?q=grosvenor+faq
KILLFILE these Grosvenor sockpuppets:
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ErnstStreicher@veritas.net
ErnstZundholtz@veritas.net
ErnstZundholz@wahrheit.net
heinrichhimmelfarb@xmail.net
hermcan@nowhere.com
JoeRosenburg@vex.net
KennyMcVay@vex.net
RiainYBlankski@nitzkor.NAMBLA.net
SusanShiksaCohen@vex.net
ViktorArcurious@veritas.net
--
"...the antisemite is immune to refutation from either facts or logic.
An antisemite has chosen to live in hatred, without regard to either
facts or logic." (Matas, David. Bloody Speech, p. 37)
The Nizkor Project: http://www.nizkor.org
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