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 | | From: | Ian Westergaard | | Subject: | Re: anyone with census experience? | | Date: | Sun, 23 Jan 2005 22:19:32 +0000 (UTC) |
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 | > >1) There seems not to be road address for the section that Adam is
> >associated with. Does this mean he is in the same building as the people
> >above him that reside in Port Dundas Road?
>
> Seems like a boarding house.
More likely to be a tenement building - up to four or five floors with 2 to
4 flats on each floor. Access by a central "close" off the street and a
central stairway. Open entry into the street so the public had access to the
door of each flat. Often with only a communal toilet on each floor and no
washing facilities except the kitchen sink. Tenants took turns keeping the
communal access, stairways and toilets clean. Some flats consisted of a
single room in which a whole family lived, often including grandparents. A
breeding ground for infectious diseases and a fire hazard as there was only
one means of escape down the central stairway. Many died from both causes.
Ian Westergaard
In Sunny & Warm Central Otago
New Zealand
----- Original Message -----
From: "Ken Gibb"
To:
Sent: Monday, January 24, 2005 10:50 AM
Subject: Re: anyone with census experience?
> On Sun, 23 Jan 2005 12:02:43 +0000 (UTC), marklang@tpg.com.au (Mark
> Lang) wrote:
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> >Hello,
> >
> >I was doing some research on the net for an article I am writing when at
> >the same time I may have struck paydirt in the 1851 census.
> >On the internet website for Ayreshire Roots Genealogy 1851 Census located
at
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>"http://fp.ayrshireroots.plus.com/Genealogy/Records/Census/1851/1851.htm".
> >Located under the Scotland section, the link for Lanarkshire produced
> >some amazing results. The downloaded file lks.zip contained a file
> >called "Lks Glasgow Barony.txt" and contained the following extracted
> >information. The paydirt name is Adam Mather in the bottom line:
> >
> >Z/11/11/PORT DUNDAS ROAD/48/
> >J/CHARLES/GREEN/HEAD/MAR/35//SPIRIT DEALER///ENG/
> >J/MARY/GREEN/W/MAR//32//PER/PERTH/
> >J/AMELIA/GREEN/D///6/SCHOLAR///ENG/
> >J/CHRISTINA/GREEN/D///4////IRL/
> >$
> >Z/51/12/
> >J/WILLIAM/MCILDOINE/HEAD/MAR/45//MASON/PER/MONZIEVAIRD/
> >J/MARGARET/MCILDOINE/W/MAR//31//PER/COMRIE/
> >J/DANIEL/MCILDOINE/SON//3///PER/AUCHTERARDER/
> >J/MARGARET/POLLOCK/SERV/U//13/DOMESTIC SERV/LKS/KILBRIDE/
> >J/DAVID/MURRAY/LODGER/U/19//STUDENT/ANS/MONTROSE/
> >J/DANIEL/MCWHANNEL/LODGER/U/21//GROCER/PER/COMRIE/
> >J/ADAM/MATHER/LODGER/U/29//MILLER/AYR/KILMARNOCK/
> >
> >As bizarre as it sounds, some of this information relates specifically
> >to the Adam Mather in our database, going by the age above for the 1851
> >census and when Adam was born. b.1822 + 29yo = 1851census.
> >
> >My question for the census experts on this list if you will?
> >1) There seems not to be road address for the section that Adam is
> >associated with. Does this mean he is in the same building as the people
> >above him that reside in Port Dundas Road?
>
> Seems like a boarding house.
> >
> >2) If yes, is the house number of Port Dundas road 48? If not, what does
> >the 48 reference?
> >
> >3) What does the 51/12 reference above Wm McIldoine's name mean?
> >
> >4) After Lodger, there is a "U", what does this mean?
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> Unmarried ??
> >
> >5) Is there anyway to verify these downloads here in Australia?
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> LDS Libary Catalogue for the CENSUS film -- Original copy
> >
> >6) Is there anything else I need to further my research in this area to
> >confirm the above results?
> >
> >Any help whatsoever would be greatly appreciated.
> >
> >TIA
> >Mark
Ken
>
> Jill and Ken Gibb e-mail - jillgibb@melbpc.org.au
> Mordialloc, Victoria
> Australia
>
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| | From: | Charani | | Subject: | Re: anyone with census experience? | | Date: | Mon, 24 Jan 2005 08:39:15 +0000 |
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| On Sun, 23 Jan 2005 22:19:32 +0000 (UTC), "Ian Westergaard" wrote:
> More likely to be a tenement building - up to four or five floors with 2 to
> 4 flats on each floor. Access by a central "close" off the street and a
> central stairway. Open entry into the street so the public had access to the
> door of each flat. Often with only a communal toilet on each floor and no
> washing facilities except the kitchen sink.
I didn't think there were internal toilets at that time, just a privy
down the bottom of the yard. By the time water closets were invented,
it would only have been the well off families who would have had the
novelty installed in their homes. I wouldn't have expected an 1851
tenement building to have had any.
I'll have to have a "google" for when Mr CLAPPER patented his water
closet.
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