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 | | From: | Bourbaki | | Subject: | Bush's questionable intelligence | | Date: | Sat, 15 Jan 2005 01:38:32 -0600 |
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 | Question: Given that a US president appoints many officials soon after
his swearing in, including many an official in the intelligence
business, to what level can a US president absolve himself of erroneous
policy on poor intelligence?
Based on your posts, you seem to think the president and his
administration, including his hand-picked intelligence officials, are
blame free. How do you defend such a position M. Gumby?
Question: For how many months did the US build invasion forces in the
Middle East, use spy satellites, get reports from weapons inspectors in
Iraq and still come up with a dead wrong conclusion regarding WMD in
Iraq? How would you, M. Gumby, suggest improvements to avoid future,
costly embarrasments?
Nicolas Bourbaki.
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| | From: | Bourbaki | | Subject: | Re: Bush's questionable intelligence | | Date: | Mon, 17 Jan 2005 15:25:30 -0600 |
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| Thank you M. Sorackem.
NB
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| | From: | RosardoZBT | | Subject: | Re: Bush's questionable intelligence | | Date: | Sat, 15 Jan 2005 02:23:41 -0600 |
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| ok stop. seriously, this getting ridiculous. You are doing nothing but
make yourself out to be a total fool.
You are doing nothing but spamming this group and I'm surprised the
moderators haven't kicked you out yet.
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| | From: | Sorackem | | Subject: | Re: Bush's questionable intelligence | | Date: | Mon, 17 Jan 2005 14:24:51 -0600 |
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| "RosardoZBT" wrote in
news:1105777395.756421.287490@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com:
N.B. asked a serious question:
"Question: For how many months did the US build invasion forces in the
Middle East, use spy satellites, get reports from weapons inspectors in
Iraq and still come up with a dead wrong conclusion regarding WMD in
Iraq? How would you, M. Gumby, suggest improvements to avoid future,
costly embarrasments?"
> ok stop. seriously, this getting ridiculous. You are doing nothing but
> make yourself out to be a total fool.
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> You are doing nothing but spamming this group and I'm surprised the
> moderators haven't kicked you out yet.
>
Somebody's looking like a total fool but it aint N.B.
Nicholas asked a very pertinent question, but all Rosardo wants to do is
ridicule N.B. and tell on him to the moderators.
The greatest intelligence community in the world, the benefit of the
Weapons Inspectors' first hand experiences and they (the neocons) get it
absolutely DEAD WRONG. One would have to be a fool to believe that it
was just a bad mistake. But then, that's what Karl Rove is for; to find
the fools and get them working for the neo-cons.
Truly amazing that the most consequential decisions made for this country
and world are not held to the same standards to which we hold our
everyday humdrum lives.
Were it just one or two instances of bad judgement, were it just a couple
of controversial agenda items, were it just a matter of symantics once in
a while, then we (neo con opponents) just might have to sit back and
wonder if we weren't reading the situation wrong; maybe there's a plan
that we just don't see yet.
But it's not just a few isolated incidences. It is not just a couple
controversial bills pushed through the congress, it is not just symantics
and two ways to the same good benefit.
Bush and the neo con power structure have been ambitiously and
systematically attacking the fundamental principles of this nation and
democracy. The Bush family history of shady deals with shady people and
questionable stock sales; the history of Cheney with Halliburton and Bush
with Ken Lay, the questionable involvement of Neil Bush with the Lincoln
Savings and Loan collapse, the election controversy in Florida with Jeb
Bush and Katherine Harris, Spectrum7, Arbusto, Harken; no WMD, AbuGhraib,
Chalabi, BinLaden still free, preferential treatment - TexANG/AWOL,
permanent tax breaks for the wealthy, environmental record... the list is
endless;
These things (and more) make it impossible to offer the benefit of the
doubt. Only a fool gets burned a third and fourth and fifth time and
still doesn't learn that fire will hurt them.
However, Rosardo, you are certainly welcome to stick your hand in the
fire again, don't take my word for it that it's going to hurt.
-B
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| | From: | Bourbaki | | Subject: | Re: Bush's questionable intelligence | | Date: | Sat, 15 Jan 2005 02:34:39 -0600 |
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| Replace M. Gumby with your name in my post and provide answers.
NB
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| | From: | Bourbaki | | Subject: | Re: Bush's questionable intelligence | | Date: | Mon, 17 Jan 2005 16:02:50 -0600 |
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| Thank you M. Sorackem.
NB
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