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 | | From: | Buster | | Subject: | "STOOPID AMEDICANS!" | | Date: | Tue, 18 Jan 2005 13:25:45 -0600 |
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 | Are we truly "Stoopid Amedicans"? Think about it. Some of our lending
institutions give preference to illegal immigrants for mortgage and
other loans in prejudice of our own citizens; we allow them to obtain
driver's licenses AND auto insurance in some states; and certain of our
idiotic politicians want illegals to have access to college
scholarships. What's worse, we hire them and buy their products and
services so they become rich, while our own incomes dwindle. If legal,
U.S. citizens are denied scholarships, loans, etc., while illegal
immigrants are given preference, does that constitute discrimination
which is actionable? Who would we sue; ourselves? Perhaps we
"Amedicans" should elect illegal immigrants to restore our country to
the greatness it once was. They may do a better job than our current
political corps. If our immigration situation persists, we all will
work for the illegals at wages far below what we pay THEM now. Worst of
all, we will have to abide by THEIR rules and laws. What do you think
about an illegal immigrant for President? It's only a matter of time.
"Stoopid Amedicans!"
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| | From: | RosardoZBT | | Subject: | Re: "STOOPID AMEDICANS!" | | Date: | Wed, 19 Jan 2005 02:44:53 -0600 |
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| ohhhh k here we go.
These days I have no qualms with illgals here. Let them get their
citizenship and let them start paying taxes right away so they can stop
leeching on the welfare system.
War On Drugs: You're joking right? Cause I mean there's no such thing
as a safe way of taking crack and heroine. They do nothing but wreck
families and destroy lives and society in general if it were to run
rampant. I refuse to believe this underground movement that as long as
you take these hardcore drugs IN MODERATION, you'll be A-Ok. Its just
ridiculous.
Not only that, if you legalize drugs, who the hell do you think is
going to pay for all the rehab for the morons? The taxpayers. And that,
my friend, would be wasteful spending.
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| | From: | deadissue.com | | Subject: | Re: "STOOPID AMEDICANS!" | | Date: | Wed, 19 Jan 2005 08:44:51 -0600 |
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| Rosardo - I think you took it the wrong way. I'm not saying that crack
and heroin should be legal. I'm just pointing out that while the
government spends their time on pot and esctacy spots, more people lose
their lives on the harder drugs. Crystal Meth is an epidemic in this
country and unless someone is being arrested for it, the public is
spared the ugliness.
I see spots on pot and X, both of which I feel can do a lot of damage
to someone young...but what happens is, kids listen to the propaganda
then smoke and find most of what they were told was bull. The distrust
of government perception grows, and maybe this person gets into harder
stuff next.
Instead of banging the square peg into a round hole - making illogical
cases for the thing that's actually legal in Canada - they should be
filming and interviewing teenage junkies and crackheads in exchange
for paying the bill for rehab. I have a friend or two who ended up
being constant 'don't do hard drugs' advertisemnts for me just based on
how their lives went downhill before my eyes.
The focus on 'gateway' drugs is for the parents moreso than the kids,
and when parents overhype the dangers of pot, kids see through it. Not
to mention that those same parents most likely smoked when they were
young, and didn't end up working for terrorists or turning tricks for a
fix.
The government has to get real about this...and they need to forget
about pot and focus on the drugs that are actually killing people...in
New England it's Oxycontin, heroin and coke. But the condition of
these users must be too 'ugly' for government-types.
Another aspect of this problem that the government doesn't want to hear
is how the pharamasudical industry's pushing of ADD drus have
assimilated kids at a young age the concept of taking a pill and
'feeling right' - or saving up that day's until later and 'getting off'
- or like when I was in high school(92-96), crushing up their ritalin
and snorting it...
These kids are introduced to synthetic drugs at young ages, then when
they have the chance to make their own choices, they're pumped with
hype about pot that can lead to a dangerous sence of mistrust. These
kids need to be exposed to a junky in withdrawal, covered in their own
vomit and shit, sweating bullets.
There are drugs out there that can kill, but the government attacks the
least dangerous one out there...to keep the show 'PG'. Scare these
kids straight by exchanging free rehab for voluneering to have it
documented for use in public service announcements.
show these kids what they'll end up looking like and they'll be less
likely to mess with the stuff...I'm against the hard drugs, I'm not
under the misconception that if used in moderation they won't kill
you...not at all. I'm just pointing out how ridiculous the approach
happens to be. We've got jailcells full of addicts and kids learning
how to become just like them, while the people for them to look up to
just spin tales.
The argument against illegal immigrants applies in that the people who
complain the most would condone approaching the problem in the same way
as the War on Drugs is handled and it's only going to create more
prisoners, and we've got too many already.
You have to approach it with the understanding that regardless of who
we lock up or kill, the illegals - like the drugs - will continue to
come in. Handle the problem, don't throw a blanket over it...
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| | From: | deadissue.com | | Subject: | Re: "STOOPID AMEDICANS!" | | Date: | Tue, 18 Jan 2005 21:06:10 -0600 |
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| This issue gets dusted off periodically - argued on a kindergarten
level - and all we come out with is that 'illegal immigrants are the
cause of all my problems'.
Ironically, the same people who shout the loudest about illegals are
the ones who complain about paying too much tax. It's obvious to me
that this is another issue like the 'War on Drugs'. People like drugs,
so they will always be available, and instead of spending money on ways
to prevent us from killing ourselves with them...instead of the
environment dictating the strategy, we just decide to kill it, and
fail...spending billions in the process.
Illegals will make it here regardless of how we try to 'kill' the
problem, and obviously the public is not willing to pay the monetary
price it would take to do whatever it is the writer of this piece would
want to be done...
On that point - it's typical to complain, yet provide nothing along the
lines of a solution. This is right-wing talk radio stuff here,
complain about 'some people' ruining it for everyone, get people all
riled up, offer no viable solution for the reason that if things get
boring down the line, you can dust this one off again.
The War on Drugs...take a look at Baltimore and see how that's going.
What do we do about illegals? Spend billions on busrides back across
the border...how long will it take for them to come back?
I know...Lock them up! Yea...in who's prisons? We're the only ones
with the money to do it, and that would cost each of us more than it
would be worth...beacuse like drugs, illegals will always be arriving,
they will never go away.
So while it feels nice to be able to point the finger and throw a
temper tantrum...we need ideas, not rants. Assimilate them towards
being legal. Figure out how to do that...like the War on Drugs should
be about educating folks on how not to kill themelves with
them...instead we've got propaganda about pot when there's an ample
supply of junkies and crackheads they could be filming instead.
What? Do What? Just scream and complain? Gets the ratings, and
that's all that matters, right?
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| | From: | RosardoZBT | | Subject: | Re: "STOOPID AMEDICANS!" | | Date: | Thu, 20 Jan 2005 01:26:54 -0600 |
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| I definately see your point and I agree. While the government ought to
have some attention towards gatewway drugs, you rarely, if ever see the
ralities of people who are crack addicts or junkies that cant seem to
live another 5 minutes without a fix.
With the war on drugs, the only way to solve it is to scare kids
straight.
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